My friend owns an STi and knows that I had been looking at the FP Green turbo. He cautioned my choice, said he had been hearing bad things about the FP Green. Then this morning he forwarded me the following link recently posted (yesterday - 7/29/08) on the Suby forum. What do you think about this?

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/engine-p...nce-turbo.html

Are there FP Green reliability issues? Is their customer service this bad??

Erik

 

i've had the green for a year now with no problems, and 100s of people will say the same

 

I'm still reading through the 13 some odd pages of posts about this on the Suby forum.

Its amazing how many owners are coming out of the woodwork that seem to be having issues with this turbo on their car (and subsequently the poor FP customer service as a result).

Maybe its an STi thing -- and the Green is particular problematic on their cars. However, FP's response to this person's issue leaves something to be desired (do you really want to do business with a person like this??)

 

Uhm, they are completely different turbos. There is absolutely no reason to speak to or listen to a Subie owner in reference to a stock-framed turbo. The name is the same, but the turbos are car-specific.

 

my greens good, and so are many many others. One problem that doenst happen to offten is the flapper snaps off

 

are you troubled by FP's customer service???

 

Yeah, I hear the fact that its a different turbo, and know from reading all kinds of posts on this forum about the Green that the EVO owners don't have problems w/ this turbo, but yes, reading this Subi's customer support experience was a little troubling.

 

I've heard from quite a few subaru people that they dont like FP's customer service.

Me honestly, I've had my FPGreen on since april last year. Turbo is perfect. Car runs great and I just ordered my FP4R's from them also... customer service for me was outstanding.

Might be a on case to case basis...but from my experience I like em alot.

 

My sig says everything haha. It is a great turbo!

 

The Subbie guy mentions that the shop installed a new oil filter as well as fresh oil when they did the turbo swap. However, he mentions nothing about priming the turbo and the oil feed line before cold starting the car with a "dry" turbo.

On journal bearing turbos, such as the FP Green, and etc. It is always a good idea not to dry start the turbo. The bearings need to ride on a thin film of oil.

First, the "expert" shop technicians should have pre-filled the center housing oil gallies, as well as the oil feedline with fresh oil during installation. I always add a quart of this GM breakin oil additive as well, just for safe measure. Then they should have built oil pressure before firing the engine up.The Subbie owner doesn´t mention the shop performing this precautionary step.

I have had only one FP turbo and zero problems.

 

I have seen several evo greens fail.. Its usually the wastegate flapper though.

 

We are talking cartridge failures. When the rotating assembly fails for one reason or another that is a turbo failure. The wastegate flapper valve failures which you mention are due to a faulty spot weld. The flapper valve itself is an external addon assembly to the turbine housing and is not really "internal". Furthemore, the flapper valve assembly on the Green is a standard 16G turbo part, as delivered by Mitsu. FP doesn´t even touch the wastegate puck. It is a Mitsu design failure. A factory weld failure is not specifically a Green failure.

 

We supply upgrade turbos for EVO's and Subaru's in the Australian market. I can say first hand that Subaru's can have turbo oil feed issues especially with that stupid filter in the banjo bolt. Also the oil banjo bolt on the turbo end of the oil feed line (that post only shows the banjo on the engine end) can be restrictive as well.
Mitsubishi based turbos like good flow AND pressure if you have this they are bullet proof, if not they will not last very long.

In my opinion that post has no relevance to EVO applications.

 

I'm interested in this. Could you post a link or give me the name of the product?


Indeed.

 

I can't personally comment about my experiences with the FP Green, White, or Red turbo for the evo's but I can comment about the Red turbo on my old Talon and it was perfect. The turbo blew once sent it to FP and they sent me a rebuilt one. I can also say FP customer service is one of the best I have dealt with. I sent 2 Saab 900 turbo's for rebuilds and one 20g for some port and clip work for my old turbo Honda and there work was nothing short of amazing.

Well all that post says to me is once again this proves Evo>Subbies!