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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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So not to be a dick but can anyone give me some serious insight on this. I just haven't gotten the responses I was looking for. Thank you
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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typically when you start a sentence with "not to be a d*ck" youre being one.

youve been handing lot of your opinions in other threads, so judging from your knowledge what exactly are you looking for? noone can give you accurate dyno numbers for each of your stages. you might want to search around for more info.

my only suggestion would be to choose one fuel and go with it. why run 93+meth and e85? seems redundant
a simple search will yeild that many people have been over 500whp on the stock block for a while now. its not all that uncommon. so you should be fine. again, should be.
as for the brakes. i have the dba 400 front and rear and ive been very happy with them. might upgrade to the 5000 up front when the need is there.

as for suspension, you have a basic setup, vs a ligit coilover setup... so what direction are you going with your car anyway? the more info you give people the more they willbe able to comment

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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okay I will just figure it out for myself. Thanks
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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I agree.. nobody here can give you a accurate dyno number without of course you going to a dyno you can get ball park figures though but you seemed like you wanted buy X part and X part and get 534whp lol

When I did my stage one which was turning boost up to 23psi and upgrading the downpipe and putting in a testpipe reflashing the ecu..have a catback exhaust on no cat and a few other things the ballpark figure i was given was around 300-310whp and if i were to upgrade FMIC and UICP and LICP and go with some cams my ballpark figure was 350ishwhp

hope that gives you some sort of an idea

a guy i know has those mods and a hta35r turbo kit and a few other misc mods and at 22psi hes got about 450whp
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Well I was only looking for ballpark figures. I'm not clueless and understand only rough estimations are possible. All I was looking for was feedback if the way I staged everything was appropriate and if my part choices were well thought out. If It was safe to keep the stock bottom end? Will my transmission be capable? Any of these things would help. jjim I was trying to make it clear that I'm not being a dick and appreciate everyones opinions ,but that was not what i was looking for.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Decide whether or not you´ll be running E85. If not, then you won´t need the showerhead injectors and the doublepumper, especially on pump/alky.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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haha okay then no e85. Would you get 1000 or 1200 then? AMS prices them the same. I will get rid of the double pumper
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by john.schuber
Well I have just received some extra income and will be able to afford to modify my car pretty substantially. I have a list of everything I plan on doing and would like suggestions on my choices. I would also like to know how to split everything up. So far I have air intake, boost controller,a custom reflash, exedy stage II with fidanza flywheel.
Okay so here is list of planned mods broken up into stages. Also if you could estimate whp on a mustang dyno for each stage. Will my clutch, block, transmission withstand this much power? Would you recommend doing brakes and suspension as well and if so between which stages? I would like to keep it around $10,000
First off, you're going to have a LOT of fun doing this in stages Don't worry too much about whp numbers as all dynos read DIFFERENT from each other, so make sure you go back to the same dyno/tuner for each stage. Also make sure you have a tuner you trust to tune your car after each stage is complete, so you have a nice solid, safe tune to drive your car on....enjoy every step of the way and then when you're ready, go to the next step

I'll take a whack at this. Assume a stock IX puts down ~215whp on said dyno:

Stage I
Ams turboback
AMS FMIC
AMS UICP w AMS lightweight battery
AMS LICP
Evo Powe Mods O2 Housing
Buschur Ported jet coated Exhaust Manifold (moved this from stage4....you'll have the manifold off the car anyways for the o2 housing!) Otherwise do it in your stage 3)
Walbro 255HP (added this for safety/future use)

WHP: 310-320whp

Stage II - cams don't really do much on a mildly modded IX. You could move this down the list if you want, but since you plan on putting a bigger turbo in, go for it. Just dont expect much power gain at this point. Good cam choice.
ARP main studs and ARP head studs
Kelford 272's
Kiggley Beehive Titanium Springs and Retainers
WHP: ~320whp

Stage III
1000cc or 1200cc injectors. Yes you can run them on the stock ECU, check the ecuflash section. If you never plan on running E85, go with like 850's. If you are even thinking about it (you know you are), go with the 1200's or FIC 1050 or 1150's.
Buschur double pumper? I would skip this until you are for sure maxed out on your single walbro.
Evo Red Ported (sending in my nine to Buschur if ever available)
WHP: on pump gas, who knows....~360-380whp? Not too many people at this point, depends on the boost you will run. E85, you'll be in the 420whp area. Also depends on engine health, fuel quality, knock, boost, *****, blah blah blah

Stage IV
Buschur Ported Intake Manifold or AMS intake manifold or Wilson Manifold
MilSpec Throttle Body
WHP: pump gas: 380-400whp?? E85: ~440?

Stage VI
Aquamist HFS-5 Which I probably will not be able to do on the stock bottom end and I don't know if I want to spend almost $5000 on a bottom end and built head
WHP: same as if you were with E85 earlier, but you'd be doing it on easier to find pump gas, and not worrying about your tune changing through the seasons. The Aquamist kits are AWESOME, I have HFS-1 on m car and it kicks ***. You might want to stick with the -1, read up on the two more to see why.

If I did I would probably do a JAM stroker or a GSC 2.2 with JAM headwork.

If you do end up building the motor, don't do anything fancy. Doing the head at the same time seems fun, but I dunno, why bother, unless you *really* want to spend the money. If you do build the bottom end, you'll be able to push the limits of the tune and probably make more power with it. However, you may not be able to do this on the stock ECU, and will then want to look into AEM EMS.....it's a slippery slope here and you have just jumped off the cliff...

Handling ( still debating)
STAGE I
DBA 5000 front DBA 4000, SS break lines, motul fluid, PF Pads
STAGE II
Robi Spec Basic with front sway bar or Advanced with KW street/track coilovers
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How many miles are on your car? Just do pads/lines when you need to, unless you WANT to. I have ferodo DS2500's w/ technifit SS lines, LOVE THEM. I just installed Girodisc magic pads on a buddy's car, those are awesome bang/buck.

Suspension, just get a nice set of progressive wound springs (swift of eibach, depending on what you want), rear sway, and you'll be happy.

Other stuff to look at will be front motor mount, short shifter w/all shifter bushings, and rear diff bushings.

Hope this helps, you'll notice a lot of ????'s for power later on, really it's up in the air, too many variables

Good luck, and post pics as you install stuff
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Thanks guys sorry it took so long to respond. So I'm getting the evo power mods 02 housing, AMS licp, buschur ported and jet coated exhaust manifold, and Buschur (or some other) short shifter, and Buschur shifter bushings. Pretty sweet birthday presents to myself! Then around December going to do full exhuast and either AMS UICP, lightweight battery and Intercooler OR Kelford 272's and Kiggley Springs.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 02:41 AM
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by speedypollard
the small battery kits are junk not to mention huge pains in the ****. And you cant run bigger than 780 injectors on the stock ecu or the car wont run properly. the batteries dont have any power so you cant run alot of electronics and good luck when the weather is cold starting ur car cause it prolly wont. AMS and Buschur both told me about the injector deal as well as numerous other shops cause i was going to run 1000. Just do ur research before you do anything crazy!
You have been wrongly informed my friend. There are numerous people running injectors larger than 780's on the stock ECU.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 05:03 AM
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im goin with 880's on my red in about 2 weeks...my shop said they had no probs tuning that large injectors on the stock ecu
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