i have a 2.3 stroker with a afi 35r turbo kit cosworth 272 cams and 880cc injector's my stock mas-air-flow sensor is about a foot away from turbo and im on stock ecu.... the shop tha built the car said i can only drive my car if i get a stand alone from aem cause i cant tune my car with the stock ecu to drive around and race on

is that true???

i was told by another shop i just need to make a extra bend or stretch out the intake pipe to help out on bogging and jumpin of rpm's and that the tune on here is just wrong thats why the car is not drivable and able to run with out bogging out and dieing at lights....

if im able to still run this set up and stock ecu some have said i can is it true or should i park car and save till i can get a stand alone but if i dont need a stand alone i dont want to get it unless i have to as its the only way....

 

there are people running 35r on stock ecu, I think Mellon is one of them.

 

Plenty of people run the stock ECU with your same setup. You just need to find someone to tune it. There are lots of vendors here that do it just search around.

 

alright what about the intake with teh mas air flow being so close to turbo or doesn't matter

 

I'd get the MAF at roughly the same distance from the turbo as it was on the stock setup. That's important.

 

It will be a lot easier for the Stock ECU to idle if the MAF is moved away from the turbo. I had the same issue a few years back. I installed a 35r on my car and it refused to idle. We were baffled for a few days, the finally added an intake with longer bend, and moved the MAF about 8 inches from the original position. After that, it idled just fine.

FYI, I ran a setup similar to yours with the Stock ECU. Good luck!

 

thanks the shop was thinking of making it custom and going into the fender where the aps one goes facing the ground like a cold air

 

A cold air solution should work well. My MAF relocation was an interim solution that I never changed. It placed the MAF / Filter towards the upper right side of the Head. Still made good power though.

Im sure these days, tuners should be able to tune with the MAF close to the larger Turbos, but I left mine in the relocated position.

 

you just need a good tuner, i know Johnbradley can tune this sort of setup

 

It might just be the tune, can't say that I've tried my stock mas that close before though.

 

im in az so im limited to tuners that i trust any more had my share of screw overs from them

 

yeah and az 91 isn't very knock resistant...you've got a nice setup so it should be pretty efficient and make good power.

 

OP, I dont have any photos of my old setup, but I have a short video. Take a look. You can see how far up I had to place the MAF and Intake in order to get my 35R to Idle (I'm running a 37R in the Vid, but I used the same pipe as with the 35R).

Good Luck...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwytC0GhqEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrDb7PNOUVs

 

yea your intake has a bend in it mines just straigh thats probably why and the tune i go into goodspeed tomorrow out here to get a base map put on my fresh motor so well see if that works

 

PM me and I can set you up with someone... I run a 35r with 1000's on stock ecu. I will set you up with my tuner...