This is very true about what you say. I let my fingers type to fast for me to catch that one. The point I was trying to get across was people are going to go out and buy Kelford cams based off this test when there are other cams shafts out on the market that were not tested. So to say Kelford cams are the best well who says they are and to what standard are they the best? Is this truly a fair way to base and opinion?

 

i wouldnt say kelfords are the best, but according to one of the best tests for evo cams, kelfords have been proven.

so i think its quite logical for someone to base their selection on a test that has been done.....

 

Well, that's true. As soon as everyone sees a test like that, a large contingent will just assume that it's the best thing since sliced bread and run out and buy it, without regard to everything else in the study that delivered the result. And of course, they're trying to fit the cams to factory valvetrains with well used, unported heads and such, and expecting the results to be comparable.

There is no single 'best' cam set, and no one can rightfully say the Kelford's are simply "the best". There is a group of better cam sets in general, and within that group, some will do slightly better than others with certain setups, depending upon the details.

 

pardon this question but, BF stands for what company?

 

BF is not a company. It is a cam made for Buschur Racing by ???

 

Thanks ^

 

ROFL

 

I bought my BF272 simply because of their 1/4 track times period

 

Chris: Are the overlayed DLL logs in post # 10 above, from a car with what turbo? Is it your HTA 35R equipped Evo, or stock turbo, etc.?

 

yes it's my car with the HTA 35R .63 which is being replaced by a HTA86 .82 tomorrow btw.

 

Does any one have a data proving the BF272 cams are better than the kelford ,hks , fp ect ect cams ? And by data I mean with testing on your car. Just as fast as people run out and buy the Kelford cams because of the AMS cam test , people are doing the same thing when someone runs very fast on BF272. I am sure that there are 9sec evos running several diffrent cams so as stated I think its up to the customer to decide. But the AMS test does help if someone has a set-up similier to the set-up AMS used for the test.

Its funny to me that shep ran 9's on simple hks 272 cam but now they are not even spoken about when it comes to cam choices lol.

 

the HKS 272 were in the test...they did pretty good for a smallish cam. I had good success with the HKS 280's on the stock valvetrain/head ~500awhp on 93 octane

 

I had Sucess with Kelfords doing 477WHP/400WTQ on 93 Octane.

 

Chris, it still amazes me what you are able to do with the stock ECU. How are you able to run a breather filter or more specifically, what intake set up are you currently using? I had to laugh at the flare-up as a result of using the word "ignorant". That's always a sensitive word to toss around especially in a forum. I was one of the guys that read through every single post for the AMS cam test and I was amazed at the time spent by one company to go above and beyond. What struck me was the increase of ungratefulness with the "what about this cam" and "what about that cam" posts. Why weren't the BF272's tested? How knows and who cares? The fact remains that the test would give anyone an awesome baseline to start from and if they were to do a bit more research on their end, I'm sure that a logical, reasonable, and informed decision would be made. The question that everyone should be honest with themselves is "what are my ultimate goals and intended use for my EVO?" I for one plan on using the Kelford 272's (with upgraded springs and retainers) in place of my GSC S1's and a majority of the information I used came from the cam test with the other information coming from discussing several things on evoM. In the interim, I'll keep my eyes open for a Kelford 272 vs. BF272 test.

 

So do BF272s = Jun 272s?? This has come up before and never been answered. Inquiring minds wanna know