Another one bite's the dust 850R again.
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No offense Geoff but you are 1 of the very few that likes the 4088 / 4094.. IMO those turbos are the biggest pigs on mitsus.. I have raped more t4 turbo cars with a 67p trim and 6262 then you could count.. all on powerband..
I know youll probably get up tight over this but just tell me what FAST EVO on boost alone can you name that runs those 2 turbos?? I can name 15+ than ran 9's on smaller t3's.. leave those 4088's and 94's for Hondas and Vr6's.. They dont work well on Mitsus from my 1st hand experience..
I know youll probably get up tight over this but just tell me what FAST EVO on boost alone can you name that runs those 2 turbos?? I can name 15+ than ran 9's on smaller t3's.. leave those 4088's and 94's for Hondas and Vr6's.. They dont work well on Mitsus from my 1st hand experience..
ahhhh, take it easy on the guy don't be to hard on him
If he got something that can hang all I can say is put it the test
But I have yet to see a 4088/4094 make the power and spool like the big boys
I told sean if he could get someone to stand behind the BW turbos to see if it will hold because Reichen runs an S400 i beleive on his mile evo at 220+mph.. If you keep boost below 45psi it might hold.. look into it.. 4094 and 4294 are pigs, IMO..
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Gotcha, thanks mike for the info, I'll do some seaching around.
I can tell you one thing you wont get a 35r to spool quicker than a TS4088.
also you forgetting that off boost single scroll turbo's feel so lethargic.
I have owned both a Single scroll and Twin scroll and well I would not go back to single scroll.. What counts is the area under the graph, no use having a dyno graph that looks like a heart rate monitor because thank all your car is good for is drags..
some people dont just live for a quarter mile at a time.
Lets see the 2nd graph in RPM and who revs a 40r to only 7k.. I dont judge by what papers say.. In the real world from MY EXPERIENCE the suck on mitsus..
By the way under 500hp by 6500rpm is nothing to write home about IMO..
Mike
Second graph is 91 pump on a mustang dyno. It is making fantastic power for the setup.
I am not trying to argue, I am just saying in my experience I have had good luck with the 40R.
Mitch
I am not trying to argue, I am just saying in my experience I have had good luck with the 40R.
Mitch
I have to agree with mitch on this one not everybody is after only top end power.
I can tell you one thing you wont get a 35r to spool quicker than a TS4088.
also you forgetting that off boost single scroll turbo's feel so lethargic.
I have owned both a Single scroll and Twin scroll and well I would not go back to single scroll.. What counts is the area under the graph, no use having a dyno graph that looks like a heart rate monitor because thank all your car is good for is drags..
some people dont just live for a quarter mile at a time.
I can tell you one thing you wont get a 35r to spool quicker than a TS4088.
also you forgetting that off boost single scroll turbo's feel so lethargic.
I have owned both a Single scroll and Twin scroll and well I would not go back to single scroll.. What counts is the area under the graph, no use having a dyno graph that looks like a heart rate monitor because thank all your car is good for is drags..
some people dont just live for a quarter mile at a time.
So once again i ask.. Show me 1 FAST all boost 4088 or 4094 EVO.. FAST i mean mid 9's.. I wouldnt use a 4088 or 4094 only to get walked bya car with an FP RED..
Last edited by AWD Motorsports; Feb 17, 2009 at 01:13 PM.
I guess that is your opinion of good luck on the dyno.. Im not trying to argue either but i have cars here that would run that car over with an FP RED making less power.. so again i am always unimpressed with 4088s and 94s.. Those were designed IMO just to squeeze in some cars to fit certain class rules when sancioned racing existed.. I think they were a mistake IMO once again..
You are NEVER going to convince me that 4088 will have a more useable powerband than a 59mm billet 35r.. NO WAY I AM SORRY..
So once again i ask.. Show me 1 FAST all boost 4088 or 4094 EVO.. FAST i mean mid 9's.. I wouldnt use a 4088 or 4094 only to get walked bya car with an FP RED..
So once again i ask.. Show me 1 FAST all boost 4088 or 4094 EVO.. FAST i mean mid 9's.. I wouldnt use a 4088 or 4094 only to get walked bya car with an FP RED..
do you know which alloy is being used in these billet compressor wheels? I assume they are machined overseas?
why not change the header? he could have power down low and serious power up top with the larger frame t4
why not? i think if this setup had a 4088R maxed out it would do as much or more power than the 850R
why not change the header? he could have power down low and serious power up top with the larger frame t4
why not? i think if this setup had a 4088R maxed out it would do as much or more power than the 850R
I would also go with a T4 frame, but its not necessary as AMS showed with the new 6765 turbo from Precision.
The 850R has a better compressor than the 4088, but its limited with the .63 hotside.
Last edited by ScorpionT; Feb 17, 2009 at 01:25 PM.
I am saying it would DEFINITELY walk that 490whp 4088 on that exact setup on that graph 100%.. all out NO WAY, i have a little common sense.. My point again.. 4088 on 91 octane yada yada yada is a watse of time..