I have the cat delete pipe and i was going to install it this weekend. I am a little hesitant because I do dot want have the check engine light come on. Anyone else with the B&B have CEL problems?

How much more power should I expect from adding the Cat delete pipe?

 

From the information I've read from B&B vendors the cat delete pipe will give you a cell. I did not purchase it for that reason. I'll get a 3" cat or buy a cat delete pipe that will not give a cell, Buschar/Ultimate. Glad to hear there were no problems with the DP.

 

OK, here's the skinny. I talked to the folks over at B&B today and she informed me that they have some higher quality lazer cut sandwich gaskets that will soon be available. To any one who is having an issue with the copper gasket you can get an upgraded gasket. IF you have any other questions please feel free to give me a call and i'll get one out to you.

 

How much power will the delete pipe add?

Is their anything that I could do to use the B&B pipe without the CEL? (O2 simulator)

 

Thanks for the reply on this. I had suggested that idea earlier in this post and to Virtego by PM. It needs to be a thicker and more compliant gasket and this should solve the problem. I need one of the new gaskets when they are available.

With this exhaust I noticed more boost lower in the RPM's than before the catback. I am still running the stock cat and an HKS downpipe.


Brian

 

I would like to get four of these. 2 for the DP I purchased and 2 for the catback.

Thanks Vivid for contacting B&B hopefully this with resolve the issue. Mine has a big enough gap that I am worried about it leaking in the future even with a larger gasket. Did they say anything about fixing the problem in the future so that the flanges would be flat and fit correctly?

 

I have the B&B exhaust on my EVO also. It does leak around the muffler section and the cat section also. I check it after I read this post. It would be nice if the gasket would do the job.

Now with that said, everything else about the system is fantastic. The noise level of the system is perfect, no highway drone, no loud cannon roar. The angle of the pipes is also perfect. Very easy installation.

 

I can almost say for certain that if the flanges aren't aligning properly that no amount of silicone goop or thicker gaskets is going to correct the problem. It may not leak right away, but drive it for a 1k miles and you will hear it for sure.

Godspeed had the same problem on their first up-pipes for the wrx's and there wasn't a damn thing you could do about it.

It sucks you pay that much money and get a second rate product. The fact that they are going to attempt to fix it with a different gasket is appauling. If they had manufactured it correctly the first time, there would have been no issues. To try and ghetto rig it instead of fix it is lame.

 

I agree sir lurks alot,
When I called Vivid about getting the new gasket they said I needed to get it from B&B. I then reluctantly called B&B and the guy I was trasfered to didn't know what I was talking about but asked for my # and said he'd get back to me. He called me back and said that they would ship me some gaskets in about a week when they got them.

They did not say they were going to fix the flange problem, just that they would give out thicker gaskets for a defective flange.

They also never came back to this board even though they know people that have purchased the exaust are unhappy with the flange as it is.

I think they should be making the effort to contact us since they already knew about the problem and continued to ship them out that way. Apparently they will continue to ship them with the defective flages and just add a thicker gasket.

They may be quietly fixing the flange but not want to replace the defective systems already sold. Either way I don't think this is acceptable to the people that have already purchased their exhaust and will have problems with leaking down the road. Or to the people that will be receiving new exhaust with the same problem.

Wake up B&B people don't want to pay top dollar for a defective product.

Over 1600 customers/potential customers have already read this post I wonder how many will not purchase a B&B exhaust untill they fix this problem? Get on it B&B and let everyone know if this is your final solution, a gasket that may leak anyway?

At this point I don't really expect them to take care of the problem to my satisfaction but other potential customers need to know what their getting.

 

Send it back and tell them you want your money back. That is BS and I will never own a B&B because of this. I don't care if they fly out and install a fix. They need to REPLACE the pipe. What a bunch of *** rags, oh well. I am going to get the H&S but want to make sure the 1st batch fits right

 

I received the gaskets that B&B is sending out . These are supposed to fix the problem with the defective warped flanges that are on the B&B catback exhaust.

These gaskets are not a high quality laser cut sandwich gasket as Vivid stated here. Just some very cheap, very thin (about the same thickness as copper gaskets) gasket material. They are also not laser cut (maybe the hole is). Hand cut and not very well either.

The gaskets I made originaly to solve the problem (foil sandwich) on my own are much higher quality and much better fit. On top of that they are actually thick enough to work. The ones B&B are sending out are to thin and I would have to use at least 2-3 to maybe work.

B&B this is why I don't bother calling vendors or manufacturers most of the time. You have proven me correct once again in my judgment. I will never rate B&B highly or recommend them after seeing how they have chosen to handle this defect.

This is just a plain poor poor, sorry, sad excuse for a fix to a defective product. . For a company that otherwise has a great product and a great reputation this is sad.

B&B are you fixing the warped flanges on the new exaust so that they will seal with no future leaking exaust problems? You never came back here with an answer to this question.

 

Is the BB turbo-back giving you 50 hp to the wheels ?

Sorry...

 

I think the best thing to do is get it from someone who makes the product themselves. Not a middle man like Vishnu, Vivid, or anyone else. I was looking at the H&S and David's turbo. I am going with David's and do you want to know why? Because he makes the damn thing and if I have a problem he will fix it. Just like getting product from any vendor. I know you have to deal with them sometimes but when you have a problem like this you are at a loss because it goes form you to vendor to vendor and you can bet your *** that Vivid does not care because they already made the sale. Get it direct as much as you can because you have some control. To be honest I would send it back and demand my money back

 

It may if it has a big enough leak

 

I really don't know how much of a HP gain I got 4-BNGR. I haven't installed the DP yet so only have catback on. Guess 10-15 HP with catback only.