Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

FP RED on 22psi

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:00 PM
  #1  
jsdude's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
From: WA
FP RED on 22psi ( Roadcourse use )

Does anyone have a dyno graph for fp red on 22psi with no meth, water injectors and e85?
I'm still in a thought between red and BBK. And I'll be only running 22psi, so I want to know the power bend of the RED. I know people are going to say if you are not running that much of a psi go for green.
Thanks
Julian

Last edited by jsdude; Mar 1, 2009 at 04:13 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:18 PM
  #2  
whoang40's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 717
Likes: 0
From: St. Paul, MN
Honestly the red/green turbos shine when boosting above stock levels. I run 24 psi on my green and I know it has a lot more left in it. I'm on E85, depending on the availability, you should do that or run alky/methanol.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:26 PM
  #3  
Jim in Tucson's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,480
Likes: 2
From: Tucson, Arizona, USA
In all honesty, I'd stick with the IX turbo at 22psi. Unless of course you're made of money in which case I suggest a 50 trim.


Last edited by Jim in Tucson; Mar 1, 2009 at 08:05 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:30 PM
  #4  
Pure Playaer's Avatar
Evolved Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 0
From: Boynton Beach, Florida
on e85 you could probably run well over 30psi, why stick to 22? safely you can run 26-28

Last edited by Pure Playaer; Mar 1, 2009 at 02:32 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:36 PM
  #5  
RockmanX's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 6,623
Likes: 4
From: Louisiana
no point in even buying a fp red to run it at stock boost level save your money
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:44 PM
  #6  
jsdude's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
From: WA
I have a evo8. All I want is 400whp without meth or e85, for road course purpose which brings a 22psi limit to MYSELF. So you guys suggest no red for 22psi? then i should go for BBK?
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:54 PM
  #7  
sparky's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,905
Likes: 5
From: Mesoamerica/ SF Bay Area
Originally Posted by jsdude
Does anyone have a dyno graph for fp red on 22ps.....I'm still in a thought between red and BBK.....
No one is going to have a dynoplot of the Red at 22 PSI, or, the BBK-Full, for that matter. Because no one goes out and spends the price for the turbo upgrade as well as the necessary support mods just to run these turbos at a measly 22#.

If you buy a Red, then you could be the first to dyno it at 22#. You would then accomplish something that no one else ever has or ever will again. Why don't you just get a good tune and turn your stock turbo up to 24#?
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:58 PM
  #8  
tarmac4g63's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: CR, IL
Originally Posted by sparky
No one is going to have a dynoplot of the Red at 22 PSI, or, the BBK-Full, for that matter. Because no one goes out and spends the price for the turbo upgrade as well as the necessary support mods just to run these turbos at a measly 22#.

If you buy a Red, then you could be the first to dyno it at 22#. You would then accomplish something that no one else ever has or ever will again. Why don't you just get a good tune and turn your stock turbo up to 24#?
not true i rememeber reading a thread by dynoflash of him tuning a RED on 19 or 20 lbs on pump gas
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:58 PM
  #9  
sparky's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,905
Likes: 5
From: Mesoamerica/ SF Bay Area
You should have stated the application(closed circuit), as well as the power goal(400WHP) from the outset!
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:59 PM
  #10  
sparky's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,905
Likes: 5
From: Mesoamerica/ SF Bay Area
Originally Posted by tarmac4g63
not true i rememeber reading a thread by dynoflash of him tuning a RED on 19 or 20 lbs on pump gas
Wow! Link? I don't read all of Al's threads. So, you owned me.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:09 PM
  #11  
sparky's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,905
Likes: 5
From: Mesoamerica/ SF Bay Area
The BBK would probably get him real close to 400 WHP at 22 PSI, wouldn't it? Will you be running it on straight pumgas(93, or, 91?) at the track?

Last edited by sparky; Mar 1, 2009 at 03:14 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:21 PM
  #12  
tarmac4g63's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: CR, IL
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-race-whp.html

there ya go i know u prob jus overlooked it
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:43 PM
  #13  
jsdude's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
From: WA
Originally Posted by tarmac4g63
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-race-whp.html

there ya go i know u prob jus overlooked it
You are the man. All i want is a link.
So it's bascially saying red spool slower than green but overall still better.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:06 PM
  #14  
EVO8LTW's Avatar
EvoM Guru
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,606
Likes: 98
From: Northern Virginia
I don't think 400 whp at 20 psi is realistic for a Red. I've got one with all the supporting mods (stock ECU) and it took pushing the boost to 24-26 psi (on pump) for it to really outshine my old white rabbit VIII turbo.

If it doesn't knock at 24-25 psi on pump and the EGTs are reasonable (on the track), then it should be just as safe as running a smaller turbo at lower boost.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:19 PM
  #15  
Freddy302's Avatar
Evolved Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 644
Likes: 3
From: CT
There should be a post by Mike1023 tonight about his 93 pump gas #'s on red. Keep your eyes out for it..
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:59 PM.