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View Poll Results: Can you hear your Throw-out bearing?
600-10K/miles:::I have the same Rattle
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600-10KWhat the hell are you talking about?
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10K+MI/ Same Rattle
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10K+MI/ HUH??
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Throw-out Bearing issues

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 12:16 AM
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Can be heard even better if you open driver door and listen in the crack..
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 06:01 AM
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Heard it in my S-2000, Heard it in both of my Evo's, doesn't bother me.....
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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So it occurs when the car is idling?
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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You probably wouldn't notice it when idling. Try this, while in neutral rev it up to about 4,000 RPMs and then left off the gas and just listen. Next rev it up again and left off the gas but this time with the clutch pedal pushed down. Listen again, if you have the "decel/neutral rattle" you will hear a difference, I know I did.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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so is this something we need to get Mitsu to look into....like the clutch... or is this just something else we have to live with from Mitsubishi
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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I have it. Only since I installed the clutch disc though. It is a decel rattle and is really obnoxious. Thank you Mitsubishi for making such a quality product. I know I caused the noise, but I wouldnt have had a chance if the clutch wasnt such a *** guzzling gutter **** piece of **** at 8900 miles. FU Mitsu.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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I've had this same TO bearing rattle during decel and idle since the day I drove it off the lot. It has been excuse after excuse from the Mitsu dealer and I dont care if its a mechanical issue or an audible issue, after paying $30k+ for this vehicle I don't want to have to worry about it .... noone should.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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Well thats what pisses me off... My car didnt do it until about 5K... it sounded just fine...
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Quick off topic: I had the "1st-to-2nd-gear-grind-when-shifting-at-high-rpms" problem and it stopped.
Back on topic.

I'm gonna try to ignore it for now. When my clutch finally eats it (and I get an aftermarket one) I'll change all the clutch peices and hopefully it won't be an issue anymore. Do the guys with aftermarket clutches still have this problem?
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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This is BS. They should order a whole new clutch assembly especialy on brand new (under10kmile) cars. The throw out bearing is clearly covered under the warentee. I think the reason they are such a$$h0le$ about it is that they dont have a part to replace it with. The stock part is defective by design so they can only order another defective one and have to replace it immediatly. Mitsu should make a new clutch assembly and issue a recall. It would only be a max of about 3500 cars and would look really good for they're PR. While they're at it they might want to sort out the transmission shifting/noise issues.

My 2 cents
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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Maybe the Rattle noise is NORMAL ??
Because it really doesnt affect anything besides MAKING your car sound like **** when PARK NEXT TO M3.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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In my experience Mitsu considers this noise to be normal. There are TSBs out there that basically say that when some of the clutch components heat up, you will get a 'harmless' rattling noise. Rumor has it that it is the springs on the clutch plate (???)

(sorry if that description sounds "way off" -- I'm not a clutch expert)

I had a 3G Eclipse previously and the noise I had from my clutch/transmission sounds EXACTLY the same as the noise I am getting from my EVO.

The noise goes away when you put the clutch to the floor. It's louder when the A/C is on. You will also notice it more in the summer and less in the winter (since it's temp related!).

Check out http://www.neweclipse.org and read the forums for additional details. While there are some true TOB problems out there, most people just seem to get the noise. You will find plenty of people that overreact when they get the noise (kind of like how every person who owns a 2G Eclipse thinks they are getting crankwalk). There are some people who had their noise problem fixed by the dealer, but most of the time it would return soon after the fix.

Just pay attention to your car and you will probably know when you have a real problem.

I have 'fought' with my dealer in the past on the noise my Eclipse made, and they would not touch it (they pull the "wear and tear" card out of their sleeve every time).

You will get used to it. Personally, I wouldn't push the issue because I don't want my dealership touching my EVO unless they absolutely have to -- after something on a new car is "fixed", you run the risk of things never being quite the same again.

If you can change gears with no functional problems, I would leave it alone. 1 -> 2 grinds don't count if you're trying to shift at redline as quickly as an F1 driver shifts gears -- sometimes you are just going to have to 'ease' into second. It's a good technique to practice, as the ladies tend to enjoy things more when you apply the same principles (heehee).

This is my second Mitsu and the noisy clutch mechanism and the grinding from first to second seem to be characteristcs/limitations of Mitsu transmissions.

If what I have described above fits what you are experiencing, quit whining and enjoy your car. If you have true issues, take your car to the dealer now.

Cabo

P.S. -- If this is REALLY bugging people, maybe a petition would be in order?
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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In reference to the previous post. The rattling noise could possibly be a loose spring on the clutch disc. I previously had a Honda Del Sol Vtec(B16 A) and it made the identical sound that my Evo makes. Loud rattling at Idle with the clutch let out---but when I push the clutch in--it goes away. Hondas are a lot easier to drop the trannys to get to the clutch--so I did --thinking I had to change the T.O. bearing, but I discovered a spring in the clutch disc had come loose making the rattling sound.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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I dont think this is such a BIG issue since most of US will be replacing the clutch at about 15 to 20 K miles.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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I have a friend who is a EVO tech and I told he about it, it went like this. Hey my new evo sure makes a lot of noise when it's hot with the ac on and the clutch out. He said does it sound like it's broke. I said ya. He said they all do that and it's fine. lol that was 3000 miles ago, same noise no problem. My Rx-7 did the same thing. My NSX had no noise though. I say live with it if it craps out you will know it. AND STOP FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS CAR. I think this is a lot of peoples 1st sports car.
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