ran 12.6 @ 112 --- broke the car
Bah! I like the 03 Cobra as well... only too many idiots buy it and think "I is are teh king of all that iz racing of teh kars!" 
(bad spelling was intentional)
I love my Evo now that I finally have it, mostly cause I can't wait to build it up. It just sucks I keep hearing about bad clutches, transmissions, and broken differentials. Everytime I hear a noise I have to drive around the block 50 times to reassure myself it was nothing to worry about
Tonight for instance I heard a clank from the back of the car when I drive in reverse. So of course I spent 15 minutes in a warehouse lot reversing so I could hear the noise. It's still there, car drives fine... so I guess I'll just forget about it =/

(bad spelling was intentional)
I love my Evo now that I finally have it, mostly cause I can't wait to build it up. It just sucks I keep hearing about bad clutches, transmissions, and broken differentials. Everytime I hear a noise I have to drive around the block 50 times to reassure myself it was nothing to worry about
Tonight for instance I heard a clank from the back of the car when I drive in reverse. So of course I spent 15 minutes in a warehouse lot reversing so I could hear the noise. It's still there, car drives fine... so I guess I'll just forget about it =/
Does Mitsu already know of your modifications? You could take everything off and put it back to stock, a days work would probably be worth $2100. There could be a problem when they see the aftermarket clutch, but unless they have proof of it causing the fault you may get away with it. If they refuse due to the clutch, you could go into arbitration under the Magnussen-Moss act. If your factory clutch wore out they will have a difficult time getting you for putting in a different clutch other than factory. Being able to use replacement parts of your own choosing was one of the main reasons behind the Mag-Moss act. It might be worth your money to look into it.
Originally posted by joeycoates
Does Mitsu already know of your modifications? You could take everything off and put it back to stock, a days work would probably be worth $2100. There could be a problem when they see the aftermarket clutch, but unless they have proof of it causing the fault you may get away with it. If they refuse due to the clutch, you could go into arbitration under the Magnussen-Moss act. If your factory clutch wore out they will have a difficult time getting you for putting in a different clutch other than factory. Being able to use replacement parts of your own choosing was one of the main reasons behind the Mag-Moss act. It might be worth your money to look into it.
Does Mitsu already know of your modifications? You could take everything off and put it back to stock, a days work would probably be worth $2100. There could be a problem when they see the aftermarket clutch, but unless they have proof of it causing the fault you may get away with it. If they refuse due to the clutch, you could go into arbitration under the Magnussen-Moss act. If your factory clutch wore out they will have a difficult time getting you for putting in a different clutch other than factory. Being able to use replacement parts of your own choosing was one of the main reasons behind the Mag-Moss act. It might be worth your money to look into it.
) can prove that you had moded your car and you took it off for the warranty, they can take you to court and basically skin you alive. for this kind of money you would be better just looking at crashed EVO's (we all know that there are a lot of them out there
) and just cut your losses.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. That really sucks
.
Well you are definately not the first to trash the front diff. Seems like quite a few have done it already with less HP. If I were you I'd try the Cusco diff that Blonde was offering rather than another weak stock unit. Its got to be stronger.
Hope to see another post soon about having it all back in order soon
.
A friend of mine has an 03 Cobra and that is one bad machine. Makes my Evo look silly in a strait line. But in the twistys its by by to the Cobra.
Take care
.Well you are definately not the first to trash the front diff. Seems like quite a few have done it already with less HP. If I were you I'd try the Cusco diff that Blonde was offering rather than another weak stock unit. Its got to be stronger.
Hope to see another post soon about having it all back in order soon
.A friend of mine has an 03 Cobra and that is one bad machine. Makes my Evo look silly in a strait line. But in the twistys its by by to the Cobra.
Take care
Last edited by mojo; Oct 7, 2003 at 09:43 PM.
I am interested in the Cusco front diff; but don't want to have a long downtime either. If anyone knows someone who could get me a decent hookup on a Cusco diff I could have relatively quick - I'm all for it!
Thanks for all the support and advice guys. I'm sure my attitude will change once the car is running strong again.
Thanks for all the support and advice guys. I'm sure my attitude will change once the car is running strong again.
i will give all my connections a call tommorow morning and i will try to get you a front diff over night from japan.
give me a call tommorow afternoon at 617-319-2120 and i will let you know what's up.
Snir
give me a call tommorow afternoon at 617-319-2120 and i will let you know what's up.
Snir
that sucks. sorry to hear that. But to be honest the EVO is not a straight line car at all.Well it is if you have the cash.To be honest its the luck of the draw. My bro has a severly modded wrx 30000 miles on it still on stock clutch and tranny. Other guys he knows had to get new engines or trans. YOu should have went with the 03 cobra if you wanted a straight line monster. EVO is more of a autocross or roadcourse. To be honest i havent read any post where someones trans or clutch went at a road course. (then again maybe i missed a post or two)
is there a cusco unit for the US evo 8? I thought the JDM models used a diffrent diff??
Also Avitar - do you have stock ride height still?????
There was a theory advanced by ferrarokid whoes ideas I respect greatly that the drag racing front diff fauilres are related to ride height issues and the fact that when you launch the front end lifts even higher pulling out the half shafts too far and placing too great a load on one side - just a theory but an interesting one
Also Avitar - do you have stock ride height still?????
There was a theory advanced by ferrarokid whoes ideas I respect greatly that the drag racing front diff fauilres are related to ride height issues and the fact that when you launch the front end lifts even higher pulling out the half shafts too far and placing too great a load on one side - just a theory but an interesting one
As much as it sucks, it's just rather funny from my perspective with all these EVO owners telling me their cars are much stronger than my DSM. It all depends on how you drive it.
Avatar, did you learn to drive from Dan? He drives DSMs like he stole 'em.
Avatar, did you learn to drive from Dan? He drives DSMs like he stole 'em.
Sorry to hear that dude. I think it's cool as hell how lightly you are taking it. I have the Exedey twin disc as well and you may have at least saved me from going out and doing the same thing if it makes you feel any better.
Good luck to ya and keep us posted.
Good luck to ya and keep us posted.
Blonde - I'll give you a call today! As Al said, we need to make sure the Cusco diff will work for the USDM car.
Al - yes, I'm still on the stock ride height / suspension.
rarson - I don't think anyone who knows cars and performance honestly believes the Evo is a weaker design than the DSM. I don't know who 'Dan' is, but I learned to drive a DSM the same was as any other car I've owned - by testing its limits myself.
Guys, I don't believe you can say any car isn't a 'drag race' car (except Hondas
). There are others putting down more power than me still on stock tranny / diff. Rollaway and I both abuse our cars well beyond what any manufacturer can build for. I launched at 7k on a really sticky track when I broke it. There is no doubt in my mind the part failure wasn't due to lack of quality in crafsmanship by Mitsu. It's because I got over anxious and abused the car.
Al - yes, I'm still on the stock ride height / suspension.
rarson - I don't think anyone who knows cars and performance honestly believes the Evo is a weaker design than the DSM. I don't know who 'Dan' is, but I learned to drive a DSM the same was as any other car I've owned - by testing its limits myself.
Guys, I don't believe you can say any car isn't a 'drag race' car (except Hondas
). There are others putting down more power than me still on stock tranny / diff. Rollaway and I both abuse our cars well beyond what any manufacturer can build for. I launched at 7k on a really sticky track when I broke it. There is no doubt in my mind the part failure wasn't due to lack of quality in crafsmanship by Mitsu. It's because I got over anxious and abused the car.
Avatar- give me a call and i will see what we can do to get your car back and running. also, i have no doubt that you abused your car and that is why it broke down. however, with a RWD car it is much easier to go fast simply for the fact that your tranny and diffs don't take all the abuse. in these cars (evo, sti etc..) you have so much traction that instead of the tires breaking loose and taking some of the load off, your diff and tranny takes it all. also, even if you do break something in a mustang while drag racing, it probably won't be the tranny or the diffs
but instead it will be broken axles and burned rubber.
but instead it will be broken axles and burned rubber.
Avatar, that really sucks. I don't think that even the Cusco will put up with much wheel hop though (is it a limited slip unit?). I have exploded the diff (open diff like the Evo front) in my fwd DSM from wheel hop and have replaced several other trannies that died from complications of wheel hop. Unfortunately, this is more than likely a good example of why Mitsu put in a 'weak' clutch. Wheel hop = driveline death!
I think it's pretty awesome you're putting down enough hp to get wheelhop in the first place. A real limited slip diff would go a long way in nixing the wheelhop and saving the rest of the driveline though. Good luck getting it back together.
I think it's pretty awesome you're putting down enough hp to get wheelhop in the first place. A real limited slip diff would go a long way in nixing the wheelhop and saving the rest of the driveline though. Good luck getting it back together.


