What intake mainifold is best?
I felt a little sorry for you and was tempted to PM you telling you about a problem I had like that. A customer of mine (not EVO) had a screw come out of one of my butterflies that caused damage to an engine. Thing is, they had welded a wiggins coupling to it.
So,either they disassembled it themselves or they welded it assembled, neither of which is a good idea of course. Either way, I copped the bill and paid it to keep them happy. (they are an otherwise good customer of mine)
So now I do a search for Hypertune, and this is what I find. You, of all people recommending a customer not to purchase my product based on the experience of one person.
really surprising.......It might be a good idea if you and dambikeracer send a PM to TedB and ask for an update regarding the Hypertune TB "problem".
You might be surprised to hear what he has to say.
Actually dambikeracer, If you would be so kind as to PM me, I'll make you an offer too good to refuse in return for you taking a couple of measurements for me. It'll only take you 15 minuites or so, and potentially save you a lot of money.......
TedB is already putting in a big effort to try and get me some more info regarding the EVO TB cable setup. From all the info I have been able to get so far, it seems that only Ted's car has this issue. The thing is I need some help from LHD EVO owners just to confirm my suspicions.
We've had excellent results with the Wilson V2.3+ manifold. Our MPH results speak for actual whp numbers, since it's common knowledge that mph is a direct result of whp. Some things previously posted as 'facts' simply put, aren't. Here's the facts: The Fastest MPH FP-Geen, 133.70-Wilson Manifold, The Fastest MPH FP-RED, 145.16- Wilson Manifold, Fastest MPH Evo IX -157.90, on a single pass of the FP-HT3586-Wilson Manifold. Dyno numbers don't always tell the story. Not too sure how readily available they are, but if you're looking for 'best' as in highest power level, we use the Wilson Manivolds V2.3+


Last edited by Indy Evo; Jul 28, 2009 at 04:28 AM.
It's not like it isn't in the top 10 threads in this subforum or anything 
The TB mention is towards the end, maybe page 11 or so?
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...d-bearing.html

The TB mention is towards the end, maybe page 11 or so?
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...d-bearing.html
We're about to do some testing on a REV3 intake manifold from MAP vs. another shops ported intake...hopefully the owner has the time to do some back to back testing, there should be some good results IMO.
WOW, I'm surprised you'd say something like that. Funny thing is, only yesterday I read a post about how one of your TB's apparently failed and damaged a customers engine. The feeling I got from your comments were that there may have been other things at play that caused the failure, especially considering it only happend on one customers car. You seeemed to conduct yourself in a very professional manner.
I felt a little sorry for you and was tempted to PM you telling you about a problem I had like that. A customer of mine (not EVO) had a screw come out of one of my butterflies that caused damage to an engine. Thing is, they had welded a wiggins coupling to it.
So,either they disassembled it themselves or they welded it assembled, neither of which is a good idea of course. Either way, I copped the bill and paid it to keep them happy. (they are an otherwise good customer of mine)
So now I do a search for Hypertune, and this is what I find. You, of all people recommending a customer not to purchase my product based on the experience of one person.
really surprising.......
It might be a good idea if you and dambikeracer send a PM to TedB and ask for an update regarding the Hypertune TB "problem".
You might be surprised to hear what he has to say.
Actually dambikeracer, If you would be so kind as to PM me, I'll make you an offer too good to refuse in return for you taking a couple of measurements for me. It'll only take you 15 minuites or so, and potentially save you a lot of money.......
TedB is already putting in a big effort to try and get me some more info regarding the EVO TB cable setup. From all the info I have been able to get so far, it seems that only Ted's car has this issue. The thing is I need some help from LHD EVO owners just to confirm my suspicions.
I felt a little sorry for you and was tempted to PM you telling you about a problem I had like that. A customer of mine (not EVO) had a screw come out of one of my butterflies that caused damage to an engine. Thing is, they had welded a wiggins coupling to it.
So,either they disassembled it themselves or they welded it assembled, neither of which is a good idea of course. Either way, I copped the bill and paid it to keep them happy. (they are an otherwise good customer of mine)
So now I do a search for Hypertune, and this is what I find. You, of all people recommending a customer not to purchase my product based on the experience of one person.
really surprising.......It might be a good idea if you and dambikeracer send a PM to TedB and ask for an update regarding the Hypertune TB "problem".
You might be surprised to hear what he has to say.
Actually dambikeracer, If you would be so kind as to PM me, I'll make you an offer too good to refuse in return for you taking a couple of measurements for me. It'll only take you 15 minuites or so, and potentially save you a lot of money.......
TedB is already putting in a big effort to try and get me some more info regarding the EVO TB cable setup. From all the info I have been able to get so far, it seems that only Ted's car has this issue. The thing is I need some help from LHD EVO owners just to confirm my suspicions.
p.s. i been going through tom at DI. witch he is also stepped up and went well beyond what most people would do for a customer. thanks tom and HT and Ted B. hope to get the new wheel real soon.
IMHO I would go with our Rev3 intake manifold for any of the stock frame turbochargers on the market. Beyond that it gets tricky to determine at which point the larger plenum of something like the Magnus cast intake manifold will begin to outperform. I'm all for more testing!
WOW, I'm surprised you'd say something like that. Funny thing is, only yesterday I read a post about how one of your TB's apparently failed and damaged a customers engine. The feeling I got from your comments were that there may have been other things at play that caused the failure, especially considering it only happend on one customers car. You seeemed to conduct yourself in a very professional manner.
So let me try and extract my foot from my mouth, however unintentional. (I guess I spent too much time as a member before becoming a vendor)



Hypertune, please accept my formal apology. Furthermore, I apologize for anything that was misconstrued, either specifically or implied.

I also tried to send you a PM or e-mail to apologize personally, but you don't accept either means of communication so I am limited to this, a public apology.
Just to reiterate to any members reading this, I fully believe that Hypertune produces a superior product. They have proven to produce superior power. And if anyone has a question on a Hypertune product you should contact Hypertune directly instead of listening to me

Hopefully that clears everything up and I am indeed sorry.
Last edited by Erik@MIL.SPEC; Jul 28, 2009 at 01:01 PM.
This is a question without an answer....
There are many options which affect spool, where power comes on in the rpm band, etc.
For stock intake manifolds, there are many options....Buschur ported, MAP V1-3, MIL.SPEC R1 and R2.
I prefer a stock look, but want maximum results which may affect spool...so I have a Wilson V2 I purchased off a forum vendor. I may even test it against our R2 just to see what the difference is. Maybe our R2 will perform better? Who knows, until the testing is done....on my car. That being said, with the amount of work that went into the Wilson, I have every belief that it will perform well.
Anytime you increase plenum size from stock you are going to change the dynamics of the engine/car.
Take all this with a grain of salt because I am no engineer.
There are many options which affect spool, where power comes on in the rpm band, etc.
For stock intake manifolds, there are many options....Buschur ported, MAP V1-3, MIL.SPEC R1 and R2.
I prefer a stock look, but want maximum results which may affect spool...so I have a Wilson V2 I purchased off a forum vendor. I may even test it against our R2 just to see what the difference is. Maybe our R2 will perform better? Who knows, until the testing is done....on my car. That being said, with the amount of work that went into the Wilson, I have every belief that it will perform well.
Anytime you increase plenum size from stock you are going to change the dynamics of the engine/car.
Take all this with a grain of salt because I am no engineer.
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