?? Why do you say this?

Dirk (owner of ACT) likes the stock disc. He will be making a heavy duty street disc in the future, but the stock disc is fine. We also stock a HD disc now that works great. If you want a 6 puck disc to tear up your flywheel and make thigs chattery, we can get you one. But the ACT clutch we sell is the real deal. If you have any questions on this, call ACT direct and ask for clarification.

Mike W

 

Your joking right? It takes 8hrs for a professional on a lift and if your somewhat knowlegeable on cars you should know....

to replace pressure plate, throwout bearing, and perhaps new flywheel or resurface with that. Oh yeah and dont' forget trans and center diff fluids.

I just dont' want to mislead people on this forum.

 

...when my clutch gos out, I'll let everyone know how much of a pain it is to replace in a two car garage. If I can get a few straight answers, I don't think it will be quite as hard as people are making it out to be...

 

Its just nuts and bolts pal. One just has to have the right tools. I can't count how many times I've taken out and re-installed the transmission in my DSM. The EVO drivetrain isn't that much different. I haven't been tuning and working on the 4g63 as long as Mike up there, but I've been tuning and working on it long enough to know how to do a simple clutch job on one. Replacing the pressure plate and resurfacing the flywheel is only necessary if they are smoked. Easy to see by inspecting them. The TO bearing can be had for pretty cheap from Mitsu. Gear oil is cheap too. Just because it says newbie next to my name on this particular forum doesn't mean I'm a newbie to a 4g63t hooked to an awd drivetrain. Evo's and DSM's definitely have their differences, but they have enough similarities to make working on one very familiar.

I'm not saying everyone should go out and do their own clutch job on their Evo, but if one is mechanically inclined...its not rocket science.

 

Agreed.

 

I should call. This is what I was told from ACT, but I don't have a name. I wanted to buy the one on Road Race. What would you say about the one on Road Race for daily driving use.

 

Thanks for the info. I'm still thinking about how much power I really want. I think I would be fine going 2600lb. My roommate has a turbo talon that just had the ACT 2600 installed. I will have to wait and see.

 

I'm mechanically inclined, but I have no clue about the first step of replacing a clutch on an evo. Did you just figure it out on your own the first time? Can you please post a step-by-step tutorial with pictures? That would help alot...

 

Ask for Dirk (Mr. ACT).

My wife has the ACT on her EVO. She dont complain about pedal effort. Remember the linkage is all set up for a stiffer ~2600 lb EVO 7 clutch, that is why there is so much pedal travel and the stock clutch is so easy. A little more effort of the ACT 2900 is nothing.

You cant compare EVO with DSM pedal effort. DSMs are 1600 lbs stock then upgrading to a 2100 with modified pivot points or a 2600 with the super thick diafram, it isnt the same at all. The ACT for the EVO is modified pivot points for the increased load.

Or pay double or triple for the latest Tommy Hillfigger clutch out of Japan.

Mike W

 

Actually im a proffesional and it takes me 4-5 hours to do the clutch job on an EVO. There is a huge difference between someone that does heavy wotk once in a while and someone that does it for a living. $150 for a clutch-he's definetely not check around for evo clutch prices

 

What do you mean? I picked up the RMR for $150. Anyone can pick it up for $200 from AMS. And installing it one's self rather than having a shop do it is free. Don't know why everyone makes such a big deal about it. Sure, its time consuming, but its not particularly hard.

 

We all know how this goes. You hear one thing and then another. The clutch is what I know the least amount of. So me for to say anythig about the RRE one would be wrong. I guess I will just wait and see what all comes out. I will not pay the price of HKS or Exedy plus install. I am so lucky to have a friend who took classes at UTI for auto work. He has worked on many DSM's so I trust him.

 

You are misinformed about ACT offering a flywheel. We looked at the stock EVO flywheel at 14 lbs and I don't see a reason to replace it. It's either a forged or ductile iron flywheel (not gray iron) and suitable to meet SFI certs. I don't really see a reason to go much lighter and there is no other advantage to the aftermarket flywheels. People slip the clutch too much as it is, contributing to premature clutch failures. That would only get worse with a lighter flywheel.

 

Dirk what compound is your replacement clutch going to be made of? I hear carbon based is very good for some slipping? I am also looking to keep the stock PP and fly wheel, just looking for a good clutch for Street and Track. The car is modified 300+ HP what would you recommend.

 

The one from RRE is the same. I don't know who you would have spoken to since I have had conversations with our customer service folks about this. There is no reason to wait. Our disc may end up being a little different because we are getting them from Exedy aftermarket division, and not from Mitsu. who gets Exedy OE version. We are still waiting for the pressure plates. Until then, get your "genuine" ACT EVO clutches from RRE.

As far as daily use, since we are not going to some crazy aggresive disc compound, the engagement will be smooth as stock. The pedal will be slightly stiffer. We are making a puck disc for the EVO but I wouldn't recommend it unless it is a rally car or something. Bring spare parts if you run a puck because it will test them.

Sidenote: Street discs are not a fragile as people make them out to be. John Shepherd decide to put slicks on his DSM and just ran 8.76 @ 165mph using a street disc. He blows my mind with that car! He will be building an EVO for the future.

I think it will take John about 8 seconds to decide which clutch brand to use. Shameless plug! Sorry.