Longer Lasting Clutch!
Originally posted by BLKEVO8
Dirk what compound is your replacement clutch going to be made of? I hear carbon based is very good for some slipping? I am also looking to keep the stock PP and fly wheel, just looking for a good clutch for Street and Track. The car is modified 300+ HP what would you recommend.
Dirk what compound is your replacement clutch going to be made of? I hear carbon based is very good for some slipping? I am also looking to keep the stock PP and fly wheel, just looking for a good clutch for Street and Track. The car is modified 300+ HP what would you recommend.
For 300hp on the street a basic ACT street setup will work perfect. Sorry, I don't believe in bells or whistles or sizzle to sell our clutches. Just like many factory designs, a generous increase in clamp load and good materials goes a long way. If you look at factory designs for Porsche 911 for instance, the only significant difference between turbo and non-turbo clutches is the clamp load. The same is true on many other cars when comparing turbo vs. non-turbo or 4 cyl vs. 6 cyl cars.
Originally posted by ACTman
Sidenote: Street discs are not a fragile as people make them out to be. John Shepherd decide to put slicks on his DSM and just ran 8.76 @ 165mph using a street disc. He blows my mind with that car! He will be building an EVO for the future.
I think it will take John about 8 seconds to decide which clutch brand to use. Shameless plug! Sorry.
Sidenote: Street discs are not a fragile as people make them out to be. John Shepherd decide to put slicks on his DSM and just ran 8.76 @ 165mph using a street disc. He blows my mind with that car! He will be building an EVO for the future.
I think it will take John about 8 seconds to decide which clutch brand to use. Shameless plug! Sorry.
Nothing against you guys. I agree that you make great clutches. And if it weren't for the fact that the RMR was cheaper and readily available, I would have gone with a clutch from you. Too bad my OE clutch went out on me so early.
Originally posted by natedogg
But he did burn that disk up the very next run as did a few other DSMer's that day. Sticky track.
Nothing against you guys. I agree that you make great clutches. And if it weren't for the fact that the RMR was cheaper and readily available, I would have gone with a clutch from you. Too bad my OE clutch went out on me so early.
But he did burn that disk up the very next run as did a few other DSMer's that day. Sticky track.
Nothing against you guys. I agree that you make great clutches. And if it weren't for the fact that the RMR was cheaper and readily available, I would have gone with a clutch from you. Too bad my OE clutch went out on me so early.
Originally posted by Mike W
?? Why do you say this?
Dirk (owner of ACT) likes the stock disc. He will be making a heavy duty street disc in the future, but the stock disc is fine. We also stock a HD disc now that works great. If you want a 6 puck disc to tear up your flywheel and make thigs chattery, we can get you one. But the ACT clutch we sell is the real deal. If you have any questions on this, call ACT direct and ask for clarification.
Mike W
?? Why do you say this?
Dirk (owner of ACT) likes the stock disc. He will be making a heavy duty street disc in the future, but the stock disc is fine. We also stock a HD disc now that works great. If you want a 6 puck disc to tear up your flywheel and make thigs chattery, we can get you one. But the ACT clutch we sell is the real deal. If you have any questions on this, call ACT direct and ask for clarification.
Mike W
Originally posted by lil'evil_evo
Wait for the ACT set up to come out. The one on www.roadraceengineering.com is not a true ACT set up. The RMR 6 puck is a 6 puck so it's not a daily driver set up. Act's set up should be ready sometime in Nov. They shoud have 3 different set up to chose from. Just like the DSM's set up.
Wait for the ACT set up to come out. The one on www.roadraceengineering.com is not a true ACT set up. The RMR 6 puck is a 6 puck so it's not a daily driver set up. Act's set up should be ready sometime in Nov. They shoud have 3 different set up to chose from. Just like the DSM's set up.
disc & flywheel from RRE. Performs awesome and is very streetable. Not a true ACT set-up? Why is that...? because it doesn't include an ACT flywheel? Stock
flywheel works great with the upgraded pressure plate... sorry to inform ya but your assumption is just a bit off there bud.
Last edited by evo1; Oct 14, 2003 at 12:25 PM.
Originally posted by evo1
I have this set-up... ACT pressure plate w/
disc & flywheel from RRE. Performs awesome and is very streetable. Not a true ACT set-up? Why is that...? because it doesn't include an ACT flywheel? Stock
flywheel works great with the upgraded pressure plate... sorry to inform ya but your assumption is just a bit off there bud.
I have this set-up... ACT pressure plate w/
disc & flywheel from RRE. Performs awesome and is very streetable. Not a true ACT set-up? Why is that...? because it doesn't include an ACT flywheel? Stock
flywheel works great with the upgraded pressure plate... sorry to inform ya but your assumption is just a bit off there bud.
Originally posted by superz
Actually im a proffesional and it takes me 4-5 hours to do the clutch job on an EVO. There is a huge difference between someone that does heavy wotk once in a while and someone that does it for a living. $150 for a clutch-he's definetely not check around for evo clutch prices
Actually im a proffesional and it takes me 4-5 hours to do the clutch job on an EVO. There is a huge difference between someone that does heavy wotk once in a while and someone that does it for a living. $150 for a clutch-he's definetely not check around for evo clutch prices
Last edited by Zeus; Oct 14, 2003 at 09:21 PM.
Hey guys, I am just catching back up with this thread and must appologize for missinforming anyone on the X-ACT flywheel topic
. The point about the flywheel entered my conversation with Richard and I guess nothing was finalized at that time, things were still speculative at that point in the design phase. Dirk I sure hope that you get some of your kits in stock soon, seeing as how my clutch is officially gone as of tonight, last time I called you guys were on back order, which isn't a suprise considering the anticipation of this kit. Take care, I'll be ordering soon.
Later,
mitsuorder
. The point about the flywheel entered my conversation with Richard and I guess nothing was finalized at that time, things were still speculative at that point in the design phase. Dirk I sure hope that you get some of your kits in stock soon, seeing as how my clutch is officially gone as of tonight, last time I called you guys were on back order, which isn't a suprise considering the anticipation of this kit. Take care, I'll be ordering soon.Later,
mitsuorder
Originally posted by natedogg
Its just nuts and bolts pal. One just has to have the right tools. I can't count how many times I've taken out and re-installed the transmission in my DSM. The EVO drivetrain isn't that much different. I haven't been tuning and working on the 4g63 as long as Mike up there, but I've been tuning and working on it long enough to know how to do a simple clutch job on one. Replacing the pressure plate and resurfacing the flywheel is only necessary if they are smoked. Easy to see by inspecting them. The TO bearing can be had for pretty cheap from Mitsu. Gear oil is cheap too. Just because it says newbie next to my name on this particular forum doesn't mean I'm a newbie to a 4g63t hooked to an awd drivetrain. Evo's and DSM's definitely have their differences, but they have enough similarities to make working on one very familiar.
I'm not saying everyone should go out and do their own clutch job on their Evo, but if one is mechanically inclined...its not rocket science.
Its just nuts and bolts pal. One just has to have the right tools. I can't count how many times I've taken out and re-installed the transmission in my DSM. The EVO drivetrain isn't that much different. I haven't been tuning and working on the 4g63 as long as Mike up there, but I've been tuning and working on it long enough to know how to do a simple clutch job on one. Replacing the pressure plate and resurfacing the flywheel is only necessary if they are smoked. Easy to see by inspecting them. The TO bearing can be had for pretty cheap from Mitsu. Gear oil is cheap too. Just because it says newbie next to my name on this particular forum doesn't mean I'm a newbie to a 4g63t hooked to an awd drivetrain. Evo's and DSM's definitely have their differences, but they have enough similarities to make working on one very familiar.
I'm not saying everyone should go out and do their own clutch job on their Evo, but if one is mechanically inclined...its not rocket science.
The EVO ain't easy. It is only vaguely similair, it has some major differences that make it a ****ing huge pain in the ***. I don't like them. I used to get annoyed at the rear motor mount on 2g's or 1g's with ABS....Man, I don't know when I have it good.
On jack stands, the GSX was a 3.5 hr out and in deal... I just hope I can knock out the Evo in an afternoon, from what I've seen thus far. I still say a comprehensive Evo clutch How-To (with detailed pics) would be the most important material ever posted on Evom... Too bad all of these people who do the job semi regularly, refuse to share the wealth.
Originally posted by JT-KGY
Actman,
I'm will be installing my SS clutch line soon... should I remove
the clutch restrictor while I'm at it? Would you guys recommend
removing it?
Thanks,
Actman,
I'm will be installing my SS clutch line soon... should I remove
the clutch restrictor while I'm at it? Would you guys recommend
removing it?
Thanks,
Originally posted by JT-KGY
Actman,
I'm will be installing my SS clutch line soon... should I remove
the clutch restrictor while I'm at it? Would you guys recommend
removing it?
Thanks,
Actman,
I'm will be installing my SS clutch line soon... should I remove
the clutch restrictor while I'm at it? Would you guys recommend
removing it?
Thanks,






