2010 Borg Warner Airwerks Turbo catalog

i would not recommend the EFR 9180 for a stock RB26 - this is wayyy too much turbocharger for the stock RB. The 76-70 would be a GREAT match for it, and if you did some headwork and cams the 8374 would be another excellent option. Additionally for the RB - i think the Twinscroll 0.92 a/r with internal WG would be the best option to go with (Thats what im using for my my car)
heres a pic of an R34 GTR RB26 w/ 8374 IWG

heres a pic of a different R34 GTR RB26 w/ twin 6258 turbos IWG:
[/quote]geoff, as of now i have your FR TS T4 Manifold with a BEP s366 with a/r .91 and on wastegate spring, 14psi, it hits full boost by 4800 rpm. what kinda spool and power @ xxpsi you are getting on the 8374?
Last edited by blitzkreig; Nov 12, 2010 at 05:56 AM.
gtx 35r is out. at lower presser ratios it looks an awful lot like a 83/74 but cant hang at higher pressure ratios. it also appears to have the old 68mm turbine wheel and the same center section. i dont think borg warner has anything to worry about. 
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...R_803715_1.htm

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...R_803715_1.htm
If anything, it shows that it was pretty hard to improve upon. The next step up at Garrett, aerodynamically, I don't think lends it's self well to mass production. I believe they use some non-radial blade curvature that requires extremely strong materials to hold up to the stresses that are induced by the design. This may be why BW went to that "superback" design.
Out of every feature, I find that back plate of the turbine the most interesting. It looks more like a compressor wheel then a standard turbine wheel now.
Geoff,
What's the chance that you could weigh the BW turbos as they start to be shipped out, and post the numbers for us weight-watchers? I imagine there are at least a couple other people out there who would appreciate this information.
Matt
What's the chance that you could weigh the BW turbos as they start to be shipped out, and post the numbers for us weight-watchers? I imagine there are at least a couple other people out there who would appreciate this information.
Matt
Thanks for the link, n2oiroc.
Here's some extracted screen shots of the Sierra-Sierra dyno run in the BW EFR youtube vid: BW EFR youtube vid



I'm assuming that the "WCF" displayed on the screen is a correction factor of some kind and it looks like the TQ/HP curve is visible on the lower right. If that's the case, then it seems to confirm that the 83/74 isn't going to spool all that early, especially considering that Sierra-Sierra runs a 2.2L engine.
l8r)
Here's some extracted screen shots of the Sierra-Sierra dyno run in the BW EFR youtube vid: BW EFR youtube vid



I'm assuming that the "WCF" displayed on the screen is a correction factor of some kind and it looks like the TQ/HP curve is visible on the lower right. If that's the case, then it seems to confirm that the 83/74 isn't going to spool all that early, especially considering that Sierra-Sierra runs a 2.2L engine.
l8r)
EFR8374:

EFR9180:

Quote from Geoff about the tq dropoff so people don't freak out:

EFR9180:

Quote from Geoff about the tq dropoff so people don't freak out:
i will get two sierra sierra dynoplots posted on full-race.com later tonite. The comaprisons are of the 8374 and the 9180. dyno runs were all done on a mustang dyno at 2bar boost, and the cam gears were played with a bit. Unfortunately these were some new cams they were testing out and not the actual cams that are in the car for race day, so tq was dropping off hard and the turbo wasnt spooling as early as they liked. I asked them to redyno the car with the right cams and we will get those dynos updated.
Last edited by vr4_rider; Nov 18, 2010 at 09:39 AM.
Wow. talk about hard hitting!!! its going from 300tq to 700tq in just 700rpm. those poor gears...
cant wait to see some smaller turbo graphs....
the 9180 graph is prettier. thats some seriously fast spool for that size turbo..
cant wait to see some smaller turbo graphs....
the 9180 graph is prettier. thats some seriously fast spool for that size turbo..
Last edited by 94AWDcoupe; Nov 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM.





