My $80.99 full ebay tbe
Yes, reasonably. Look at what these Japanese companies are charging for a complete turboback; look at what some of the American companies are charging. I am fully aware of the cost of American and Japanese labor being higher, and the higher cost of better metals, but when you can get the Chinese one for under $100 or these other "quality" brands for over $1000, its just not a comparison and there are going to be a lot of consumers going with the Chinese based solely on cost and the American/Japanese companies are going to have to respond eventually by bringing their prices down.
Looks great. May just swap out my NAME BRAND catback (DP is V Band so) for one like this. Been looking for a cheap loud *** catback cause I don't daily drive the car anymore.
That damn thing looks better than some $1000 exhaust i've seen. Makes you wonder
That damn thing looks better than some $1000 exhaust i've seen. Makes you wonder
this reminds me of ebay headers back in the day for the e46 m3 everybody was chargining like 1800 and then the ebay ones were like 150 and they were dyno'ing the same as the ones 4x the price and had great welds.
Let me say this for the third time. My last exhaust fit perfectly. Perfectly.
Yes, reasonably. Look at what these Japanese companies are charging for a complete turboback; look at what some of the American companies are charging. I am fully aware of the cost of American and Japanese labor being higher, and the higher cost of better metals, but when you can get the Chinese one for under $100 or these other "quality" brands for over $1000, its just not a comparison and there are going to be a lot of consumers going with the Chinese based solely on cost and the American/Japanese companies are going to have to respond eventually by bringing their prices down.
Add on the lack of environmental pollution control for their steel industry and little if any manufacturing standards.
Is it really that surprising they sell an exhaust for 1/10th the price? Do you really believe you can manufacture a competitive product in the USA when the only thing the average consumer cares about is price?
While I agree, we (America) needs to do something to compete. The fact is, that 10 times more expensive labor rate (producing roughly 10 times better living conditions for you and I) is pretty difficult to overcome when the majority of the expense of these parts is labor.
Last edited by 03whitegsr; Nov 6, 2009 at 09:41 PM.
You do realize that the average labor rate in China is 1/10th that of the USA, Europe, and Japan, right? I mean, you are talking about a country where people (children) are bought and sold just like slaves....right?
Add on the lack of environmental pollution control for their steel industry and little if any manufacturing standards.
Is it really that surprising they sell an exhaust for 1/10th the price? Do you really believe you can manufacture a competitive product in the USA when the only thing the average consumer cares about is price?
While I agree, we (America) needs to do something to compete. The fact is, that 10 times more expensive labor rate (producing roughly 10 times better living conditions for you and I) is pretty difficult to overcome when the majority of the expense of these parts is labor.
Add on the lack of environmental pollution control for their steel industry and little if any manufacturing standards.
Is it really that surprising they sell an exhaust for 1/10th the price? Do you really believe you can manufacture a competitive product in the USA when the only thing the average consumer cares about is price?
While I agree, we (America) needs to do something to compete. The fact is, that 10 times more expensive labor rate (producing roughly 10 times better living conditions for you and I) is pretty difficult to overcome when the majority of the expense of these parts is labor.
Installed the exhaust today. Other than having to hammer the downpipe (which is expected) it fits PERFECTLY. Matter of fact, they have drilled out the downpipe flange with this model so that the springs don't have to be shortened.
Fits perfect. No issues whatsoever.
Fits perfect. No issues whatsoever.
thats awesome! u just hammerd the downpipe to fit around the acd??
Id rock it.If it fits well 3" piping is 3" piping.theres no tricks in buschur,ams etc exhaust its just piping and it will be same ****.Im thinking of picking up this one myself http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Catba...Q5fAccessories
Last edited by Gordian79; Nov 8, 2009 at 09:05 PM.
