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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 03:03 AM
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Comp surging again

Hi All,

I'm getting again what I think it's compressor surging with my GT3071 anti-surge ported.

Accelerating WOT from 3200 to 4000 in 4th and 5th gear, I get the annoying wosh wosh wosh noise, and the car stumbles a bit, so definitely is surging.

As i read, this kind of compressor surging (WOT from low rpm, longer gears, during spool up to max pressure 1.80 bar) can be caused by a too retarded ignition timing in the spool up region, that causes a too fast pressure rise:
is this correct ?

This is my ignition map, any advice is really appreciated.
For example, is it correct that from 3000 to 4000 I have less advance that over 4000?



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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 03:49 AM
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what type of engine management are you running?
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
what type of engine management are you running?
Hi, Motec M400
Does it make a difference ?
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Hi, Motec M400
Does it make a difference ?
Nope, was just asking.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianEvo
Hi All,
As i read, this kind of compressor surging (WOT from low rpm, longer gears, during spool up to max pressure 1.80 bar) can be caused by a too retarded ignition timing in the spool up region, that causes a too fast pressure rise:
is this correct ?
ive been having a problem with the static ignition timing retarding and it definatley makes comp surge worse. Im running a 3582 with out a ported front cover. Have a look at the dyno sheet, the only difference between these two runs are the static timing retarded alot, something like 6 or 8 degrees, it spooled the turbo a bit faster but lost a lot of power and comp surge is worse.

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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JC evo1
ive been having a problem with the static ignition timing retarding and it definatley makes comp surge worse. Im running a 3582 with out a ported front cover. Have a look at the dyno sheet, the only difference between these two runs are the static timing retarded alot, something like 6 or 8 degrees, it spooled the turbo a bit faster but lost a lot of power and comp surge is worse.


Very interesting, thanks
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