the reds has issues due to oil. they have solved that with new oil line. before that i heard of failures after that was released i have not heard of any fp red failures heck i have heard and read of some people that are still using the stock lines to supply it working fine. there was a error in his setup

 

I have one of the original reds. I live local and was one of the very first. One of my friends died early. I have been running 32 psi since day one. I originally had on the stock line then change over the first upgraded line with no filter. I still have the first gen line on. I am sorry to hear about your loss. Have you sent it in to FP to see what happened?

I would definetly have to recommend an Aquamist meth kit and some Gsc S2's or Kelfords. Howerton Enginering makes an awesome tank/pump setup. If you want to do it your self I believe Slocar made a write up on his setup.

 

Sounds like bigger injectors are the general consensus. I'm looking for power levels in the high 400's to low-mid 500's so if running boost over 30psi will get it then i'll crank it.

 

Tell that to my Exedy twin that slipped on me on it's very first pass at the track with only 3,000 miles on it. The twin is not strong enough for a red running mid 30's psi +.

 

OP listen to what Scheides and Sparky are saying in posts 7&8 and Yahu on post 14... All three of these guys I have great respect for and they know what they are talking about. I would agree with them all, however there is no need in me repeating what they have already told you.

Yes, Ryu is also correct that the twinHD will slip on the Red w/ 35+psi. It will slip and we have seen that on the track a few times up here where I live. However the twin will not slip on the street. The TwinHD doesn't dissipate heat like the triple Personally I would go with a Quartermaster or a Tilton clutch, but since you already have the Exedy you can get an upgrade triple plate from them for 800ish.

Mikey

 

dont be so quick to put blame on someone...!

I was tuned with track safety in mind...

 

^ on a 2.3 or 2.4L the Red is the best Road course turbo! Hands down! Surprisingly enough there are a ton of people using them You could even use the stock 2.0l just keep the revs up.

Mikey

 

I'm in the same boat (sorta) as you. I'd say go with the AMS fmic or the ETS 4". i dont think you really need the radiator or the sparktech system. go with GSC or FP cams and at least minimum 1000cc injectors. you don't REALLY need the fuel rail, mellon tuning said he didn't replace his until 600whp (if i remember correctly) but they're like $250 so may as well. for meth kit, i'd go aquamist HFS-1 (when i was considering meth, that seemed like the best one to get at the time), i think thats the most expensive one, but i like i said i hear it's the best. TTP sells one also. good luck with the car man, bring the car to EFI logics or get ivey tuned since you're in new york

see poll
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...p-red-bbk.html

 

^ the OP needs to get a Garrett core! I will be upgrading to the 4.5" ETS Garrett core here shortly. The absolute best FMIC on the market. PERIOD!

Mikey

 

Wow - sounds like you had a problem with adjustment or install or something.. or again you had an SD.

Seen plenty of exedy twins eat up 35 psi and 550 whp...

 

good luck with ur build but don;t forget an O2 housing as well.

 

^ an external dump 02 housing!

Mikey

 

550whp huh? That's nice and all but clutches are. Rated by torque holding capacity, not by horsepower. The twin I believe is rated to 550tq at the flywheel. I was making 547wtq at the time. Your comments of improper install or it being an sd are incorrect. The exedy twin will NOT hold whatever the red can throw at it. That is complete misinformation.

 

Like Ryu stated, clutches are rated at ft. lbs not hp. A Red with 550hp will hold the power on the street just fine. The problem will be when you go to the track and start launching. The twinhd will slip from excessive heat. There is no need for you to argue the fact because you are wrong! 35psi on the Red is still only going to be around 450-470tq depending on the setup. When you start pushing a Red past 35psi it starts to make a lot more tq and a lot less hp due to the Red operating outside the efficiency rating and compressor map. Just keep that in mind. That is how Ryu has such a strong tq curve because he was pushing 40+psi.

*edit. Ryu were you having problems slipping on the road or just on the track?

Mikey

 

ive got an fp green and i also look to upgrade to the red eventually. ive got ported exhaust mani, fp green, and want an external dump o2. also 1000cc on e85. the upper ic pipes that you have are old school . i upgraded to a shorter route pipe kit. looks and feels more responsive. good luck with you decisions