Im stuck with you as well. I ran a 12.01 @ 115 with a 1.73 60ft knocking like hell and timming being pulled. This new bbk b will give the red good compitition. Not saying that the bbk full doesn't already.

 

Chad - Do you have any information on the customer's setup and whether this was on 91 octane ? 437 whp on GST's dyno is a lot of power.....

 

+1 I'm very interested. I'm torn between the original BBK and the upcoming BBK-B even though there's no numbers for the BBK-B. Just waiting to see it's potential.

 

I am hoping that the Red will do wonders for my car with Shell V-power 100(94??) on board. The Red will not be up an runnig berfore spring, but the stock turbo gives plenty of fun in the snow I have no plans for anything else then pump gas. So maby the BBK would be a better option but to late now since there is no marked for used Evo parts here!

 

We need a gas specific thread - BBK vs RED on Pump!

 

my smaller than stock tires on my BBS wheels don't help either 255/40/17 is what i run which are 25.0 inches in diameter, and the stock 235/45/17 are 25.3 inches. i even notice my mph is off during driving through those police traps. if i had right size tires and i had a bit of a better 60 footer on my 12.08 runs i bet id be 11.8-11.9 right now

 

Im liking my new FPRED

Mods:

80mm FPRed
Stock Motor/ECU
MAP Ported manifold
GTSpec header(cracked)
Injen piping
Kelford 272's
etc
110 oct
29psi
Tuned by CWILL @ ASAP PERFORMANCE

 

^ Awesome #'s, it's nice being able to compare STD Dynojet sheets too!

Hey do you know what ur Red made on 9X octane pump? I'm curious to know what it made vs your ARMS on pump gas.

 

Not sure, i was out of gas when i made it to the dyno, so we put 110 oct in, still have some left in my tank next week i'll do a pump gas tune but i can tell it feels really close between the two turbos, quicker spool for the Tomei for sure but the Red might have a bit more of a punch up top.

 

ok im looking in to both turbos right now and, i cant decide which will be best for my set-up.... can yall help me?? im looking to make 400+/400+. here are my mods
and i dont want that much lag.

built 2.3 stroker
tomei 280 camps
FP valve springs
skunk 2 cam gears
aro fuel rail w/ 880cc injectors
fuel lab FPR
255 fuel pump
labonte meth kit
AMS FMIC
AMS LICP
AMS UICP w/ hks bov
hsk intake
OTP o2 dump
OTP down pipe with cutout
hks exhaust
COP w/ hsk DLI-II
hallman MBC

here is my turbo now
stock turbo w/ hot side ported and jet coated
ported and jet coated exhaust manifold

 

^^ i would go with an fp-black

 

yeah with all that and a built 2.3 Blacl all the way

 

^^ BBK - XL or whatever it is called....look at what GST was able to achieve w/ th3 BBK-XL and 2.3 L....

 

they make a bbk XL??

 

i think the black would be to big. i wanna do auto-X and track.