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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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Re: Shiv comment on C&D

Originally posted by AutoXer
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Shiv says "The bad news is that there isn't a lot of power to uncork for cheap." Compared to what, Shiv?
Keep in mind that that quote as taken several months ago before our XEDE offered boost control or knock adjust features-- both of which helped matters out in a big way. It was also before we discovered the benefits of indexed cam timing. We're seeing gains of 25-35whp with these new features now active. It was also running on our CA 91 octane gas. So yes, big hp gains for cheap were harder to come by, back then in those days.

Today at BM Tranny, however, all four Stage 1 cars were making 310-320whp on pump gas (on an *AWD* Dynojet). Stage Zeros were making ~290whp. Stage Zero with downpipes were making ~300whp. One catless Stage 0 made 310whp (but it stunk literally). Stock cars baseline around 230-240whp. Interesting to note that Stage 0, 0+ and 1 baseline maps are now within ~10whp of final custom tuned maps. Guess this traveling is really paying off since we don't have to detune the heck out of the baseline maps for safety's sake.

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shiv

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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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Sorry to hear about your problems with Vishnu. Unfortunately it is not a unique story. Supply and demand have no doubt decimated their staff's current capabilities. I have learned to "fire and forget" the order until it magically shows up. It is currently the only cure for "Vishnu Order Anxiety Syndrom" short of choosing another tuner as you and many others have demonstrated, and I don't blame you.

I am not making excuses for their undeniably poor sales and ordering support, just sharing my opinion that at the end of the day it was all worth it. I am completely satisfied with the performance that the Vishnu modifications and tuning have delivered.

Additionally, I will say that in my case, the after-sales support has been exceptional. I have had a Stage Zero since May and just upgraded to the Stage One. Whenever I have had a question about the Xede, Shiv has always personally responded quickly.

I liken the Vishnu ordering experience to the purchase of my Evo. I ordered it in December sight unseen and without any of the final production details. For almost four months, no one could tell me anything about when I would actually get it. That too turned out to be worth the wait.

Best of luck in your tuning endeavors,
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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I am glad the after sales support is good I was REALLY worried about that. Still should you have to order it and forget about that? Before I sold my company if I did that there is no way I would of treated my customers like that, That would make me feel bad. Anyway nice chart and glad you are happy with his stuff. I hope he turns it around but I have a feeling he is too busy to really get things right.



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Ryanmcd2

Sorry to hear about your problems with Vishnu. Unfortunately it is not a unique story. Supply and demand have no doubt decimated their staff's current capabilities. I have learned to "fire and forget" the order until it magically shows up. It is currently the only cure for "Vishnu Order Anxiety Syndrom" short of choosing another tuner as you and many others have demonstrated, and I don't blame you.

I am not making excuses for their undeniably poor sales and ordering support, just sharing my opinion that at the end of the day it was all worth it. I am completely satisfied with the performance that the Vishnu modifications and tuning have delivered.

Additionally, I will say that in my case, the after-sales support has been exceptional. I have had a Stage Zero since May and just upgraded to the Stage One. Whenever I have had a question about the Xede, Shiv has always personally responded quickly.

I liken the Vishnu ordering experience to the purchase of my Evo. I ordered it in December sight unseen and without any of the final production details. For almost four months, no one could tell me anything about when I would actually get it. That too turned out to be worth the wait.

Best of luck in your tuning endeavors,
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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Nerd, pleaze, BR can make 340WHP on pump gas and minor boltons, and a HELL OF A LOT less, if that makes me a Nerd, then get me the Geeky glasses and a pocket protector
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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I ordered the stage 1 in July after about 10 days of having my car. Then after a month of waiting and having no idea when I was going to get it I called.....

At least you could order! I tried for 2 weeks to place an order with Pruven and could never get a warm body. I sent several emails and called over 10 times! So I called UR and they have been great. Vishnu has nice stuff. Thats why it cost a bit more. UR had a very similar exhaust for much less so I went with that. I will go to Vishnu for an Xede or Xflash.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 05:30 AM
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Re: Shiv comment on C&D

Originally posted by AutoXer
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Shiv says "The bad news is that there isn't a lot of power to uncork for cheap." Compared to what, Shiv?
That is true...if you buy parts from Vishnu. Come on Shiv, you left yourself wide open for that one.

Incidentally, I ran 118mph in my full weight Eclipse GSX with an Evo III 16G over the weekend. That is the mph record for that turbo. I know you are happy for me.

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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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Come on guys. Keep the name calling out of this.

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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Ryanmcd2
Before I sold my company if I did that there is no way I would of treated my customers like that, That would make me feel bad.
Then stop *****ing and take your business elsewhere. You do have that choice, it is a free country... If you still want Vishnu stuff - pipe down already, I think everybody heard you by now. I think you deserve the right to be called the King of the Hijacked Threads...
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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I think running 0-60 in 4.6-4.4 seconds for only 2500 dollars is cheap. Look at vishnutuning stage upgrades.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by EVOFREAK
I think running 0-60 in 4.6-4.4 seconds for only 2500 dollars is cheap. Look at vishnutuning stage upgrades.
You can go much faster much more cheaply with other parts.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by ShapeGSX


You can go much faster much more cheaply with other parts.

Yup you can buy a very fast DSM for that price
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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For less than $1000, you can go to a muffler shop and get a 3" crush bent complete exhaust made as well as buy and in stall an S-AFC. For another $30, you can install an MBC and crank up the boost to 20psi. Then, for about $175, you can convert your car to fwd and dyno on a 2wd Dynojet. With some tuning, you should not have a problem getting well over 300hp at the front wheels. The area under the curve and run-to-run consistency won't be optimal but, man, you'll have a killer bang-for-the-buck hp number generator.

my 2c,
Shiv

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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by MP5



Yup you can buy a very fast DSM for that price
Well, that is a good point. A friend of mine had his 1G DSM running 12.7 for not much more than that. But I was talking purely about aftermarket parts on an Evo.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:44 AM
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See, Shiv knows the deal. I'm more interested in actual results than dyno numbers, though. So knock off the conversion price and dyno time.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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ShapeGSX,
Ah, I forgot who I was talking to In drag strip lingo, customers with Stage 1 cars are running trap speeds in the 110-113mph range. This kit costs $2200 (with non-sig exhaust). Add camshafts and traps should climb another 3-4mph. This is with a cat, factory intake, factory BOV, factory intercooler and no weight reduction. Personally, I don't think this is too shabby. But then again, I've only been to the drag strip once or twice in my life and spent most of my time at the concession stands eating nachos.

Cheers,
Shiv
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