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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
i need to go to the doctor i think. haha.

i see where i miss worded it. that was my fault.

a hta82 spools up sooner then a 6262 does. that is what i meant.
I saw that but I knew what you meant. lol
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
i need to go to the doctor i think. haha.

i see where i miss worded it. that was my fault.

a hta82 spools up sooner then a 6262 does. that is what i meant.
Np, sorry for the miss communication.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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I currently have a 6262 w/ .63 AR on my 2.3. I'm going to be switching to an HTA3582 in the coming months (whenever I get a moment to install it). Why the change? Because I'm not making 700whp, don't want 700whp and I don't like lag. I thought about a stock frame turbo; BB Red, BB BBK-XL, but it's more cost effective to stay T3. Turbo choice is only difficult if you don't know what your after. Set a goal, add 50whp as head room, pick the smallest turbo that'll get you there while still operating inside it's compressor map, then go shopping.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuxevo
I currently have a 6262 w/ .63 AR on my 2.3. I'm going to be switching to an HTA3582 in the coming months (whenever I get a moment to install it). Why the change? Because I'm not making 700whp, don't want 700whp and I don't like lag. I thought about a stock frame turbo; BB Red, BB BBK-XL, but it's more cost effective to stay T3. Turbo choice is only difficult if you don't know what your after. Set a goal, add 50whp as head room, pick the smallest turbo that'll get you there while still operating inside it's compressor map, then go shopping.
Why not the 86?
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by millen86
Why not the 86?
He just said pick the smallest turbo that will get you to your goals and still be efficient.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Poloiceberg
He just said pick the smallest turbo that will get you to your goals and still be efficient.
Like you said "He", the question was for him.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by millen86
Why not the 86?
It's not necessary, the 3582 has shown to be capable of 650whp easily. If I'm not using the 6262 to it's potential, I sure wouldn't put the 86 through it's paces. The 82 leaves plenty of head room, spools faster than the 86 was $100 less.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuxevo
It's not necessary, the 3582 has shown to be capable of 650whp easily. If I'm not using the 6262 to it's potential, I sure wouldn't put the 86 through it's paces. The 82 leaves plenty of head room, spools faster than the 86 was $100 less.
What's the spool difference between the 86 and the 82?
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuxevo
It's not necessary, the 3582 has shown to be capable of 650whp easily. If I'm not using the 6262 to it's potential, I sure wouldn't put the 86 through it's paces. The 82 leaves plenty of head room, spools faster than the 86 was $100 less.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by millen86
What's the spool difference between the 86 and the 82?
4-600rpm depending on how well your tune is tweaked,some see as much as 800rpm difference. I only answered this because I actually have experience in using both turbos. I'm currently selling both of them.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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to the OP, since you will be using pump gas, have you thought about the hta3076r? also alot of good info so far, anyone know spool/power difference between the hta3582 and hta3076?
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Migsubishi
4-600rpm depending on how well your tune is tweaked,some see as much as 800rpm difference. I only answered this because I actually have experience in using both turbos. I'm currently selling both of them.
Wow. So why are people saying that it makes no sense to get an 82 when there's an 86 even if power goal is 500wheel?
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by millen86
Wow. So why are people saying that it makes no sense to get an 82 when there's an 86 even if power goal is 500wheel?
They have not used both turbos and many are just repeating what they've heard.

You got my pm didn't you? You saw the graph right? I'm over 400ft tq and over 300hp before 4,000rpm on a 3rd gear pull.... This is of course on a 9.1 compression stroker.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Migsubishi
They have not used both turbos and many are just repeating what they've heard.

You got my pm didn't you? You saw the graph right? I'm over 400ft tq and over 300hp before 4,000rpm.... This is of course on a 9.1 compression stroker.
I have used the standard 35r, hta82, and the hta86. All in twin scroll on a 2.0l motor. The difference between the 82 and 86 was not worth keeping the 82.

I think why people tell u many options is simple. Personal preference. Take the opinions and recommended turbos from the people who have used them.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
I have used the standard 35r, hta82, and the hta86. All in twin scroll on a 2.0l motor. The difference between the 82 and 86 was not worth keeping the 82.

I think why people tell u many options is simple. Personal preference. Take the opinions and recommended turbos from the people who have used them.
Sorry I was unaware that this discussion was about twin scroll turbos.. My knowledge is only with open scroll and I have graphs to back it up.

If you are not drag racing the car and do not care about making over 700hp the 86 and 6262 are to big for you and the lag trade off isn't worth it.The HTA3582 is capable of making 700hp and making over 300 of it before 4k rpm...

These turbos work best in a single scroll configuration for peak hp, by choking them down with a twin scroll only kills the turbos top end performance in trade for trying to get more low end spool... Why do that to a big turbo, why not just buy the right size snail from the start?

I currently own both turbos, and am selling both of them.. So I have no bias towards either, just speaking cold hard facts...

If this discussion is twin scroll based I will happily see my way out of it.
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