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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 06:00 PM
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what turbo and wastegate should i do ??

so im goin to be building my evo9 and i am still stuck on wat turbo to do ... i had in mind gt3076r, fp red just wanted to hear from everyone wat would be the most reliable turbo to go with my setup

Already have installed
Invidia DP nd TP
Greddy TiC Catback Exhaust
Hallman MBC
Wallbro 255lph Fuel Pump
HKS Intake Suction Kit
AEM Air/Fuel Gauge, Boost Gauge, Oil Press gauge
MR Bilsteins Re-Valved wit Swift Spec-R Springs

Want to Get Done
Bushwacker Transmission Upgrade
Kelford 272 Cams
ARP Headstuds
Supertech Springs and Retainers
HKS Sequential BOV
HKS Twin Disc Clutch
BR Stainless Steel Fabricated O2 Housing
780cc Injectors
Aquamist
BR Street Core FMIC
BR Ported Exhaust Manifold
BR Upper nd Lower IC Piping
BR Mini Battery Kit
BR Rear Diff Support nd Steel Bushings
BR Rear Strut Tower Bar
BR Motor Mounts (pair)
Polyuerthane Bushing Master Kit

Wastegate ( NOT SURE WHICH ONE TO DO >> TiAL ??)

Turbo ( NOT SURE ??)

i live in the city and dont plan on Daily Driving but 3-4 days a week, i am aiming for whatever horsepower is reliable wit this setup keep in mind that im keeping the block stock wit 55k on it (Is it able to handle the turbo swap nd the other components in the build ??) .... Any insight will be great i really wanna do it once and do it right THANKS !!
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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my .02:

-get rid of that hks bov, in my experience, i was fouling plugs with the vta bov's
-look into the red 80mm or black , which they come with thier upgraded wga themselves.
- get bigger injectors while ur at it to support the extra air ur pushing in (ask a tuner to verify this point)
-base shifter and underhood bushings for ur tranny.

gl with the build!
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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so the 80mm fpred shud i go wit the new MAF pipe from Buschur as well ??

should i go with a tial 50mm bov and 38mm internal wastegate ?

i want to keep the injectors at a reaosnable size to not smell to much fuel in the car or dump extra fuel into the engine.

How long do the stock blocks give out until ?? like mileage wise
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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What power goals are you looking for? what do you intend to do with the car? Drag just street? Auto-cross? Shoot me a PM and im sure we can set you up with something you will love
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:29 AM
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what whp your targeting and what are you going to use it for?
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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the car is mostly gunna be a street car maybe track 2 or 3 times a year tops !! i would like to fun a reliable amount of power considering im on a stock block so like 460whp range i think is appropriate enough for the street and to do good times as well

i want a reliable setup to be built i dont want to worry about no problems im not an aggressive driver only when needed loll
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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FP Red for sure. You dont need a wastegate with the FP color coded turbos, theyre all internally gated.

Youll definitely wanna go with most of the stuff in your "want" list for that setup too, Force-Fed Peformance should be able to set you up with a Forge RS bov, forget the HKS. Theres always trusty Tial too though. I love my Forge RS.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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^^ good to hear, i told ya she was a holding monster. We also can get the New Tial Q Re-circ valves

I would really like to see this car use a .82 A/R 5857 or a 6057 tho.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Personally, I prefer externally 'gated turbos like the HTA3076R over the EvoRed..

Dont you guys have problems holding boost pressure with the internal gated turbos? I find that the internal gated turbos generally have problems holding high boost all the way to redline and beyond, they just seem to taper off..
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Someone just mentioned something about having taper issues with the red, but supposedly no one else has seen results like he had. Somethings up that he tapers so quick.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonba
Personally, I prefer externally 'gated turbos like the HTA3076R over the EvoRed..

Dont you guys have problems holding boost pressure with the internal gated turbos? I find that the internal gated turbos generally have problems holding high boost all the way to redline and beyond, they just seem to taper off..
Yes any smaller frame turbo is going to loose pressure thats just how things work. Certainly a external larger wastegate is better for controlling pressure. We always recc atleast a T3 frame turbo unless someone ONLY intends to use the car as a street car and insists on having a stock appearing turbo

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Someone just mentioned something about having taper issues with the red, but supposedly no one else has seen results like he had. Somethings up that he tapers so quick.
Yes they hold boost a ton better when using a quality MBC like a hallman RX, we also see alot of the 64mm reds having surging problems and dropping boost off by redline
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