David Buschur's RS/BADBISH 2010 build
what fuel do u guys use on the badbish? sorry if that was already gone over. i wanted to get the I.D. 2200cc but on every website it says not to use with Q16 or vp import which i wanted to use. i would do e85 but the nearest station is a hour and a half away (if no traffic) so e85 is out of the picture. thanks
Dave a few questions regarding other parts other than the motor:
1. Are you still using the Apexi N1 coilover set?
2. You said you are switching to Drag Radials for this year and if i remember correctly the MT ET Streets which i think are very comparable to the Hoosier QTPs, right? The Hoosiers are way to soft and fragile to drive on the streets, but how about the MTs?
Will they able to withstand lets say a 60 mile drive to the track, passes and drive back? I know a lot of muscle car guys are using them, but there are two types at the 16" size. One weights 28-29 pounds which of course i wouldn't buy and the other one is the 21-22 pound type... I am guessing that you are using the later. Would you drive them on the street?
3. how about a summary of the things you will do on the suspension setup for this year?
1. Are you still using the Apexi N1 coilover set?
2. You said you are switching to Drag Radials for this year and if i remember correctly the MT ET Streets which i think are very comparable to the Hoosier QTPs, right? The Hoosiers are way to soft and fragile to drive on the streets, but how about the MTs?
Will they able to withstand lets say a 60 mile drive to the track, passes and drive back? I know a lot of muscle car guys are using them, but there are two types at the 16" size. One weights 28-29 pounds which of course i wouldn't buy and the other one is the 21-22 pound type... I am guessing that you are using the later. Would you drive them on the street?
3. how about a summary of the things you will do on the suspension setup for this year?
I am using E85 and have run some E98. E85 is what the car will be run on when it's available again in the spring. You can't beat that fuel at $2.50 a gallon. You can not use the ID2000's with Q or Import.
kouzman, I see you posted the same questions to me on high boost forums and I answered them there before coming here.
kouzman, I see you posted the same questions to me on high boost forums and I answered them there before coming here.
I am using E85 and have run some E98. E85 is what the car will be run on when it's available again in the spring. You can't beat that fuel at $2.50 a gallon. You can not use the ID2000's with Q or Import.
kouzman, I see you posted the same questions to me on high boost forums and I answered them there before coming here.
kouzman, I see you posted the same questions to me on high boost forums and I answered them there before coming here.
I am trying to find time and install the Apexis too that igot from you! Hopefully, along with proper tires the car will launch better and get huge improvement on my ET...
Now back to your RS! Lol
Hey Dave. I just went through this thread and read your concerns of not losing any midrange with your new setup. I also read where you said that you wanted to auto cross your car. If those were of most importance to you, why didn't you go with the 2.4 instead of the 2.1? 2.2? Did the 2.4 not have enough rpm capabilities for your unique setup? Just want to let you know thanks for all the testing you do man. You make it alot easier for some of these other shops to try to imitate.
Last edited by lillev23; May 23, 2010 at 06:48 PM.
I see a missed a question here and I was stopping by with an update.
To answer the above question, the 2.4 liter doesn't have the RPM capabilities I need for my car to run 8's. At 159 mph the car was crossing the finish line at 9850'ish RPM.
So for the update...........
I've been driving the car around quite a bit this year. I've put more miles on it this year than I have in the past few.
A few weeks before our Sport Compact race Kevin Lawson came up and we went to another race together as spectators. After the race was done he asked where the car was and if we could go look at it. For those of you that don't know Kevin is one of my best friends and he drives the car. So we went and got the car and took it for a long drive. At one point I told him to stop and run it through the gears hard just for the hell of it. He missed 2nd gear..........very unlikely for Kevin to do. I told him not to try again and we'd save it for the race.
Then the day before the Sport Compact Nationals DSport Magazine was shooting pictures of the car and doing some DVD footage. We ran just under a 1/2 tank of fuel out of the car out playing in it, filming it and I feel proving it is actually a street car.
The day of the SC Nationals didn't go so well. I had not run the car on the Haltech yet and still didn't have the anti lag/launch control sorted. Kevin's first pass bogged, the 2nd pass lit up the tires and he missed the 2nd gear shift. We decided that it would be best to just lift to shift as it didn't appear the car was going to go into gear. The 3rd pass we realized the boost was low and only hitting 35 psi. The next 4-5 passes we spent trying to figure out what was going on with the boost. Finally we figured it out and about the 8th pass the boost went to high and ran in a load aread where I have the timing retarded for safety, which was about 47 psi. Turned the boost back down to 42 psi and for the first time all day I was standing directly behind the car and I could hear a problem at the top of each gear and the entire length of 4th gear. I never heard it inside the car or on the dyno. The car ran a best of 9.3 at 150.xx mph on the DOT tires. This is only .3X seconds from the 8 second goal and the car is down OVER 9 mph. I asked Kevin if he could hear the "noise" and he told me no but he could feel the car lay over. It was 100% obvious to me, the valves were floating. Unbelievable and as soon as I heard this noise I had a flash back to the winter of cam and turbo testing and why nothing I did made more power. We decided it was pointless to keep running the car and parked it for the day.
Last week Dan/Steve got the trans and clutch out. The reason it wouldn't shift was the clutch was over due for a rebuild. We ran it since the mid/end of 2009 and it wouldn't release, this in turn took 2nd gear out. The clutch is fixed and so is the trans both are back in the car.
Today I took the time to get the head off the car so we could check it out and put in fresh valve springs and lifters. I'm not sure how many times the valve springs have been used in different heads I've run and the lifters are original stockers, Lord knows how many times I compressed them to do cam swaps and such.
I had the head off and everything swapped over and nearly back together running in less than 3 hours today and I'm no mechanic. The Tial V-band housing sure made the job faster.
Plans are to button the car up tomorrow after my morning dyno tune appointment. I'd like to get it on the dyno but I have to get our EVOX ready to race tomorrow night. Next week it will be back on the dyno.
If all goes well and I expect it to, I'm think the car will set a dyno record for the HTA86 and I'm expecting close to 740 whp out of it. My fingers are crossed and I'm hoping like hell what I heard was actually valve float.
BTW, when I pulled the head off today I was completely amazed at the condition of the cylinder walls and pistons. The E85 is so clean burning, you could hardly tell the car had been run, pretty cool stuff.
Something else to note. Kevin did cut a 1.44 sixty foot on the DOT's and with no power shifting managed the 9.3x. It's looking pretty promising once the car is back to normal that an 8 second run very well could happen.
To answer the above question, the 2.4 liter doesn't have the RPM capabilities I need for my car to run 8's. At 159 mph the car was crossing the finish line at 9850'ish RPM.
So for the update...........
I've been driving the car around quite a bit this year. I've put more miles on it this year than I have in the past few.
A few weeks before our Sport Compact race Kevin Lawson came up and we went to another race together as spectators. After the race was done he asked where the car was and if we could go look at it. For those of you that don't know Kevin is one of my best friends and he drives the car. So we went and got the car and took it for a long drive. At one point I told him to stop and run it through the gears hard just for the hell of it. He missed 2nd gear..........very unlikely for Kevin to do. I told him not to try again and we'd save it for the race.
Then the day before the Sport Compact Nationals DSport Magazine was shooting pictures of the car and doing some DVD footage. We ran just under a 1/2 tank of fuel out of the car out playing in it, filming it and I feel proving it is actually a street car.
The day of the SC Nationals didn't go so well. I had not run the car on the Haltech yet and still didn't have the anti lag/launch control sorted. Kevin's first pass bogged, the 2nd pass lit up the tires and he missed the 2nd gear shift. We decided that it would be best to just lift to shift as it didn't appear the car was going to go into gear. The 3rd pass we realized the boost was low and only hitting 35 psi. The next 4-5 passes we spent trying to figure out what was going on with the boost. Finally we figured it out and about the 8th pass the boost went to high and ran in a load aread where I have the timing retarded for safety, which was about 47 psi. Turned the boost back down to 42 psi and for the first time all day I was standing directly behind the car and I could hear a problem at the top of each gear and the entire length of 4th gear. I never heard it inside the car or on the dyno. The car ran a best of 9.3 at 150.xx mph on the DOT tires. This is only .3X seconds from the 8 second goal and the car is down OVER 9 mph. I asked Kevin if he could hear the "noise" and he told me no but he could feel the car lay over. It was 100% obvious to me, the valves were floating. Unbelievable and as soon as I heard this noise I had a flash back to the winter of cam and turbo testing and why nothing I did made more power. We decided it was pointless to keep running the car and parked it for the day.
Last week Dan/Steve got the trans and clutch out. The reason it wouldn't shift was the clutch was over due for a rebuild. We ran it since the mid/end of 2009 and it wouldn't release, this in turn took 2nd gear out. The clutch is fixed and so is the trans both are back in the car.
Today I took the time to get the head off the car so we could check it out and put in fresh valve springs and lifters. I'm not sure how many times the valve springs have been used in different heads I've run and the lifters are original stockers, Lord knows how many times I compressed them to do cam swaps and such.
I had the head off and everything swapped over and nearly back together running in less than 3 hours today and I'm no mechanic. The Tial V-band housing sure made the job faster.
Plans are to button the car up tomorrow after my morning dyno tune appointment. I'd like to get it on the dyno but I have to get our EVOX ready to race tomorrow night. Next week it will be back on the dyno.
If all goes well and I expect it to, I'm think the car will set a dyno record for the HTA86 and I'm expecting close to 740 whp out of it. My fingers are crossed and I'm hoping like hell what I heard was actually valve float.
BTW, when I pulled the head off today I was completely amazed at the condition of the cylinder walls and pistons. The E85 is so clean burning, you could hardly tell the car had been run, pretty cool stuff.
Something else to note. Kevin did cut a 1.44 sixty foot on the DOT's and with no power shifting managed the 9.3x. It's looking pretty promising once the car is back to normal that an 8 second run very well could happen.
The car is back up and running now. Had a hell of a time getting it to run right after putting it back together and then realized I had forgot to plug the IAC and TPS back in! DUH!!!
Dyno next week and track if all goes well.
Dyno next week and track if all goes well.






