Upgrading / Reinforcing the 6 speed
got an email from john the other day and he said testing at 640hp, no he didn't mention tq, is complete so the gears or at least the pricing will be released soon.
bit late for me atm, getting a new clutch fitted monday...lets wait and see pricing.
4.09 fd would be pretty cool too.
bit late for me atm, getting a new clutch fitted monday...lets wait and see pricing.
4.09 fd would be pretty cool too.
5th tops out around 145 at 8200 (stock), so it needs something past that if it were on a fast "closed" course. changing the FD at the same time might alleviate that enough to make it all work together well. I keep forgetting the FD change.
What does that come out to with the new FD (like a 4.11 or 4.09)?
Well I had only been going on memory, it appears that 8200 in 5th with a 245/45-17 should be 165 and switching to the 4.09 brings it 186. 6th would cruise at 2600 or so at 70 so not too shabby.
I stand corrected.
I stand corrected.
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Base on the size limitations of the housing. Thicker gears stronger? or is thing incorrect
Well all know the 1-3 are thinker on the 6 speed.....this is not the issues. Its 4 + that **** the bed, and its a given that the 6 speed housing is the same size as the 5 speed therefor you're not able to get the same width in the upper gears...were the issues arise.
I think its great that shep is investing time into research on strengthening the 6 spd....But swapping to a Five speed isn't rocket science....and i see nothing but benefits with going to it.
You may have an alternative view and thats fine. Thats just the way i look at it

Well all know the 1-3 are thinker on the 6 speed.....this is not the issues. Its 4 + that **** the bed, and its a given that the 6 speed housing is the same size as the 5 speed therefor you're not able to get the same width in the upper gears...were the issues arise.
I think its great that shep is investing time into research on strengthening the 6 spd....But swapping to a Five speed isn't rocket science....and i see nothing but benefits with going to it.
You may have an alternative view and thats fine. Thats just the way i look at it
Last edited by Teal2nnr; Jul 8, 2010 at 03:15 PM.
Base on the size limitations of the housing. Thicker gears stronger? or is thing incorrect
Well all know the 1-3 are thinker on the 6 speed.....this is not the issues. Its 4 + that **** the bed, and its a given that the 6 speed housing is the same size as the 5 speed therefor you're not able to get the same width in the upper gears...were the issues arise.
I think its great that shep is investing time into research on strengthening the 6 spd....But swapping to a Five speed isn't rocket science....and i see nothing but benefits with going to it.
You may have an alternative view and thats fine. Thats just the way i look at it

Well all know the 1-3 are thinker on the 6 speed.....this is not the issues. Its 4 + that **** the bed, and its a given that the 6 speed housing is the same size as the 5 speed therefor you're not able to get the same width in the upper gears...were the issues arise.
I think its great that shep is investing time into research on strengthening the 6 spd....But swapping to a Five speed isn't rocket science....and i see nothing but benefits with going to it.
You may have an alternative view and thats fine. Thats just the way i look at it
I am no engineer, but the new upgraded gears look to have much more material there...so the potential exists it could even be stronger than the OEM 5 speed gears. You saw the pics of the new gears, correct?
Last edited by Erik@MIL.SPEC; Jul 8, 2010 at 03:28 PM.
Well, until we have data this is all supposition. You were stating that the 6 speed would "never be as strong" as the 5 speed, which is where I had a problem with what you said.
I am no engineer, but the new upgraded gears look to have much more material there...so the potential exists it could even be stronger than the OEM 5 speed gears. You saw the pics of the new gears, correct?
I am no engineer, but the new upgraded gears look to have much more material there...so the potential exists it could even be stronger than the OEM 5 speed gears. You saw the pics of the new gears, correct?






