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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Startup issues??? HELP

I have been having issues on startups with my car for the past several months. It started after I installed injectors, cams, and o2 housing. I am having a second tune to rule out that problem so I am assuming its mechanical. What could be the cause. Car sometimes struggles to turn over when its from a warm start; hot starts are good. I am going to adjust cranking enrichment tables on this tune to exclude that but last tune it did nothing.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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**** anybody! Before I put a match to this friggen thing....
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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...It started after I installed injectors, cams, and o2 housing
Cams = will not cause temp related start up issues.
o2 Housing = will not cause temp related start up issues.
Injectors = will cause temp related start up issues if not scaled properly.

This is a tuning issue. Log your start up. Have your tune adjusted by a pro.

Your injectors my be scaled too big and at certain temps its not adding enough fuel at start up.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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**** anybody! Before I put a match to this friggen thing....

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Originally Posted by Evoryder
Cams = will not cause temp related start up issues.
o2 Housing = will not cause temp related start up issues.
Injectors = will cause temp related start up issues if not scaled properly.

This is a tuning issue. Log your start up. Have your tune adjusted by a pro.

Your injectors my be scaled too big and at certain temps its not adding enough fuel at start up.

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This. Your startup map is going to be the issue.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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what size injectors are you running?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 05:15 AM
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PTE 880's are the injectors. As far as a tuner I have Mellon working on my tune at the moment. I think he is experienced enough to scale injectors properly. I have logs on startup, log 1 was was on a hot start with no issues the other was a warm which I had issues. I will send them to whoever is interested just give me an email. I would assume on larger injectors there is too much fuel on startup?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 06:12 AM
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If you you got Mellon working on it, why put up a thread?

I have the same 880's in my car scaled @ 770.

You gotta get your latencies/fuel trims in check and you should be fine.
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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as I've mentioned to Eric, I've tuned hundreds of cars with 880/1000cc injectors without startup issues. The problem is most likely something mechanical. I've had a few customers that need to adjust the BISS or replace the ISC. His previous tuner had the same problem.
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 06:40 AM
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^ from just changing injectors?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 06:42 AM
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I guess? Whats the ISC?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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Idle speed control valve .
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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Every thread that has BISS mentioned in it relates to poor idling. My car isn't really idling too bad at the moment. Gets a little boggy at times but usually rises back to wear it should be.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 01:49 AM
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if you want to rule out the injectors you could put the stock ones back in and stock tune
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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Just put the stockers back in with the stock rom and voila! Car starts perfect on the temp range I was having issues in. I was confident it that was the problem after doing several cool down sessions and restarting it to make sure. Once I put the 880's back in there was an issue. What to do next?
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Did you put new 880's in their, make sure they're not leaking when the car is off.
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