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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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Did you post your plot in the dyno forum? I'd like to see it. Also what is your engine build looking like? 1850 or high injectors?
yes we have post on the dyno section. Check out mine car pics. My injectior are id2000 cc.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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iam with mike @ awd on this one
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Meanie
What's your opinion Mike? My drive train is upgraded. Assuming i use decent rods and pistons in my build. I just want a fast street car that rev's high (if I stay 2.0). I will run E until I no longer can (if I move to the great white north).

Again I'm not hung up on numbers but I want to maximize my setup. If my drive train can handle 700+ and the motor can handle that then why wouldn't I go for that.
Well i would say you want a 6262 unless you can run E all the time.. Then you can make 650hp comfortably but that turbo doesnt rev high either.. Your not going to make at 9k with Black what a 6262 makes..

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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Green, Aaron's 3586 spooled 1000rpms slower than my Black. We have the exact same setup minus turbos. I would holla at Aaron if you would like more data. I think on my setup would could get 600 on 93 with the Black. I did 613hp @ 25psi on E85...

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Green, Aaron's 3586 spooled 1000rpms slower than my Black. We have the exact same setup minus turbos. I would holla at Aaron if you would like more data. I think on my setup would could get 600 on 93 with the Black. I did 613hp @ 25psi on E85...

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Id go on a limb and say not possible to make 600 on 93 on black safely.. I would be surprised to say the least although we have never tried pump on built 2.4L.. and if it you did do it the HTA or 6262 would make 650+ on pump then on your car i would bet..


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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Id go on a limb and say not possible to make 600 on 93 on black safely.. I would be surprised to say the least although we have never tried pump on built 2.4L.. and if it you did do it the HTA or 6262 would make 650+ on pump then on your car i would bet..


Mike
I think the only problem may be the 10:1... Honestly, I'm not willing to push it on pump to find out.

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by leonevox
right now , iam making 800 whp mustang dyno with 6765 , built engine, 40 psi, e85 fuel. Running 9s all day long. Can any fpblack beat it?


Mike@AwdMotorsports / 02/19/10 / AWD, Buschur / Evo 8 / FP BLACK, Mivec, Stock ECU/MAF, E85, Tuned By: Diiirk / 9.33ET

William Leveston (lillev23) / 05/02/2010 / AWD / Evo 8 / FP BLACK, stock ecu, STOCK BLOCK, E85, tuned by diirk@AWD / 9.959ET

OKIX / 11/08/09 / Wilson Manifolds-Forced Performance / Evo 9 / FP BLACK , 2.0, Import, AEM EMS/ 6.226 / 9.537ET

and some FP Red have gone 9's not everyone needs a big turbo to go fast
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Honestly I will drag race my car but that is not my ultimate goal. I just want a car thats stupid fast on pump and even more retarded on E85.

@ What was Aaron making at the same rpm level as you. aka Like around 4500-5000 RPM's (I know the GT compressor would still be building boost).
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo_TK
Mike@AwdMotorsports / 02/19/10 / AWD, Buschur / Evo 8 / FP BLACK, Mivec, Stock ECU/MAF, E85, Tuned By: Diiirk / 9.33ET

William Leveston (lillev23) / 05/02/2010 / AWD / Evo 8 / FP BLACK, stock ecu, STOCK BLOCK, E85, tuned by diirk@AWD / 9.959ET

OKIX / 11/08/09 / Wilson Manifolds-Forced Performance / Evo 9 / FP BLACK , 2.0, Import, AEM EMS/ 6.226 / 9.537ET

and some FP Red have gone 9's not everyone needs a big turbo to go fast
Thanks Thomas! Leon thinks that everyone needs a big turbo...

Originally Posted by Green Meanie
Honestly I will drag race my car but that is not my ultimate goal. I just want a car thats stupid fast on pump and even more retarded on E85.

@ What was Aaron making at the same rpm level as you. aka Like around 4500-5000 RPM's (I know the GT compressor would still be building boost).
I don't have a clue! Shoot Aaron a pm and tell him to overlay our graphs and give you the stats. I just remember it being 1k rpm slower on spool up.

Mikey
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Thanks Thomas! Leon thinks that everyone needs a big turbo...



I don't have a clue! Shoot Aaron a pm and tell him to overlay our graphs and give you the stats. I just remember it being 1k rpm slower on spool up.

Mikey
dude, just because you have the fpblack , doesnt mean every should have it ok. I had it before and i personally got bored with it. Please stay on topic and not mention mine name. You and I have the right to express things, so please respect other comment...
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Thanks Thomas! Leon thinks that everyone needs a big turbo...



I don't have a clue! Shoot Aaron a pm and tell him to overlay our graphs and give you the stats. I just remember it being 1k rpm slower on spool up.

Mikey
Thanks BLK. I'll PM him.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports
Well i would say you want a 6262 unless you can run E all the time.. Then you can make 650hp comfortably but that turbo doesnt rev high either.. Your not going to make at 9k with Black what a 6262 makes..

Mike
Well thats thing. As long as I live in GA I'll run E but there is a good possibility I'll be moving back to Toronto....This is also another factor in me thinking a few years in the future. I may only have access to pump.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Meanie
Well thats thing. As long as I live in GA I'll run E but there is a good possibility I'll be moving back to Toronto....This is also another factor in me thinking a few years in the future. I may only have access to pump.
i think your over thinking it my build will be done soon and i will not be 10:1 you can see what i do. remember i dont have a dump but everything is ported out built for max flow. so we will see. i personally dont by into the big turbo hype when people are running 9s on stock frame but i understand you will be on pump some day im on pump NOW so ill provide one graph for ya for sure and remember your compression will be higher. My question to you is how are you going to run 93 oct continually on 10:1 compression I thought that was bad since the compression is so high??
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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Tune will need to be a little more conservative but def. appears do-able.

JMS needs to finish your car we can what it does.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Meanie
Tune will need to be a little more conservative but def. appears do-able.

JMS needs to finish your car we can what it does.
LOL why dont you call them and say we need data now LOL.
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