So since I'm in the planning stages of what to with my car I'm thinking about staying 2.0, Turbo Tuff rods and WisecoHD's or JE equivalents, mild port work of the head and MAYBE upgrading my Kelfords to 280s or getting FP5R's if they are available.

Currently i have a BBK Full but when I do build the motor I plan on going FP Black. I was just thinking for the money would it make sense to go with a 6262 turbo and all the trimmings. A smaller one.

Yes I know it may spool slower then a FP Black but I may be moving to Canada and I think Toronto does NOT have E85. So I'm starting to think if I'm going to do this I might as well go with a pump gas turbo.

My build will be slightly higher compression and high rev's.

The FPBlack has def. changed the stock frame turbo game and is putting out numbers similar or in some instances better then their GT/Garrett/Precision counter parts.

The car is mainly street driven. I may attend some drag events but this is mainly a street vehicle. I have some friends with some pretty fast cars. The fastest of which is a C6 Z06.

 

HTA3586 would be a good choice if you want the big numbers of a 6262 with a little added reliability. After a lot of reading thats what I decided to go with.

 

PMd you buddy

 

Added reliability??? Issues with Precision turbo's?

 

the older series Precisions we have seen some issues with but none since the New PTE billet wheels have come out we have had zero problems

 

Not saying everyone of them is bad just that I saw quite a few threads about precision failures, blown seals, bearing failures and none of that with the garrett units. I was dead set on wanting the 6262 but then saw that the 3586 made more power and didn't have as much "bad press"

 

Thanks for this I didn't know.

 

well obviously i can only speak from our experience but we have yet to see a Billet PTE or Garrett GT series or true Borg Warner Fail

 

3582, 3586 , 6262, 6765pt , dual ball bearing turbo baby, for faster spool and liability.

 

Replied.

 

I don't know much about the Garrett's or the precisions but I assume:

3582----->3586 (Power wise)
3586----->3582 (Response wise)

6262----->6765 (Power wise)
6765----->6262 (Response wise)

I would love to see some plots not only of power but boost curve as well to compare against the Black. Its hard to compare flipping back forth between posts.

I don't necessarily believe in LAG. What I mean by that is if at 3800-4500 rpms a FP Black is at full boost but putting down 500 and a Precision/Garrett is 3 quarters of the way fully spooled but making the same power, lag is irrelevant at that point. Esp[ when the Black dies off up top and the Precision/Garrett is holding boost all the way to redline.

Am I looking at it too simplistically?

 

right now , iam making 800 whp mustang dyno with 6765 , built engine, 40 psi, e85 fuel. Running 9s all day long. Can any fpblack beat it?

 

Did you post your plot in the dyno forum? I'd like to see it. Also what is your engine build looking like? 1850 or high injectors?

 

Choice is simple.. Do you want more than 450-480 on pump gas.. If you do you have no choice you need a 6262 or HTA 35r.. They make 550-600 on pump..

Mike

 

What's your opinion Mike? My drive train is upgraded. Assuming i use decent rods and pistons in my build. I just want a fast street car that rev's high (if I stay 2.0). I will run E until I no longer can (if I move to the great white north).

Again I'm not hung up on numbers but I want to maximize my setup. If my drive train can handle 700+ and the motor can handle that then why wouldn't I go for that.