Hi guys,
Are you sure the dyno operator (at Pan, I presume) is not using the Shoot-Out program (which changes test conditions and estimates crank hp) to display the results? Because the Stage 1-3 results in your sig are really high as far as Dyno Dynamics Dynos wheel hp go. On DD dyno, it should only take 250-260whp to get an EVO to run low 12s at 110-112mph trap speeds, not 380whp.

shiv

 

Yes, I am completly positive it is using the correct info. We both know how to use the dyno correctly. All the stock EVos' they dyno will only put out about 210whp stock. I believe the most they have had a stock EVO dyno is 218whp.

 

3300 lbs car with 490ish flywheel hp should run 11.0 @124 in da 1/4 ,and 380 flywheel hp should get you 11.95@114mph in da 1/4. Not whp! Sounds like some of your # are lil off?

 

I agree those #s are prolly right somewere in the universe but seem too high here in Texas. BTW I thinkthat the EVO tracks more around 3400+ lbs from what Ive seen at least

 

Well, Ryan said that they are about ready to take their Evo that is now putting out 493 whp to the track, so I guess we will see how the hp correlates to what the dyno says.

 

I was trying to make it look not soo bad ,so 3400 lbs would need more fly wheel hp than 380 and thats what they RNr is clamin at the wheels(all 4 wheels),for there stage 1. Like i said, his #'s sound a lil off.

 

Nope. Garrett has confused everyone by releasing all their new lineup as GT series (for the most part). Remember that Garret6t has not made any "T3/T4" turbos in many years although there are GT series turbos that are around the same size. Yes there are GT32, GT25, GT38 etc. . . . that are all non ball bearing. It makes things very confusing but such is Garrett.

 

For gods sake, why does this seem unusual. All the tuners who try to over-engineer things and put out wild theories are suprised. These cars have been running low elevens on stock engines for awhile. If I'm correct AMS ran a 10.9 on a stock engine in a VR-4. (They also made 525whp on the stock evo engine)

 

We will see. Our car defintely isn't lightweight.

I am expecting mid 11's from it. It's not like I can make pass after pass until I get a good run in. A good run would be a low 11, but that isn't going to happen as our track is strict and will kick me after the 1st 11 sec pass.


Hopefully nothing will break.

 

I'm just going to jump on the pump gas band wagon and see how impressive things are then... and what the low end torque curve looks like compared to stock...

 

Thats the thing that sucks. One mistake and you run 11.9 at 125 and can't make any more passes.

 

Ya, that is the part that sucks. I run one 11 sec pass and then it's all over.


We will just have to rent the track for a day so ti's not a problem.



Al, made 570whp and ran 11.5 at 121 so I am not expecting the best numbers right now.


We still have a 2.25" downpipe on the car so it doesn't spool the best between shifts until I fix that.

 

Guys, what's the big friggin deal about putting a simple roll bar in the car? If you have the means of bringing a kit like this to market, I think you can put a cage/simple bar in the car just to meet requirements of the track. And I'm sure if you think for a few minutes, you'll see where you can hide mounting points so you can bolt in and bolt out when needed.

Yeah, it's dead weight, but if all you're after is that little white receipt, I'd say it's a small price to pay for selling a proven 10 second turbo kit.

 

Not to mention if you go sideways it could save your life.

 

Why dont you guys utilize a cage using chromoly steel? Its great advantages over steel cages is def. important @ the track. When I build mine for my 97 mirage for scca road rally...I saved a bunch of pounds. I even went as far as using higher tensile strenght/light weight fill rod for my tig welds. BTW great news about the kit...I cant wait until the new timeslips comes in.