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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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7 bolts 4g63... all the same?

reason i ask and have searched is because im looking for a good core to build this winter

will a 7 bolt 4g63 out of say a 99 eclipse turbo car block

bolt up the same as a evo 8 block?

beside the pistons being backwards are they the same

starter placement, bellhousing bolt up

anyone know from exp.?
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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I think you should call any of the big name Evo builders and find out, but I don't think anyone uses 2G blocks for Evo builds.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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DSM blocks wont work. To much stuff is just different. Somewhere there's a thread with models of cars with 2.4l blocks that work for Evo's.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
DSM blocks wont work. To much stuff is just different. Somewhere there's a thread with models of cars with 2.4l blocks that work for Evo's.
2.4 YOU need a wp spacer, block off 3 water passages, find a tb that works... just doesnt sound to promising
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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Blocking off coolant passage is easy, TB doesnt need to be changed, and water pipe spacer? Not sure on that one.

You need to drive a 2.4 sometime. The extra torque off boost and quicker spool is amazing in a DD.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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DO NOT USE A 2G BLOCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the oil passages were changed on the 2g 4g63 blocks to allow the oil squirters to get oil first before the main bearings. this was a common failure for crankwalk in the 2g's.

how do i know>>?? i had one....my GST started to crankwalk but was withing tolerance. another fella had a fully built forged block. fired it up and had minimal oil pressure. spun a rod bearing...a oil squirter stuck open and caused the rods to be starved for oil.

find an EVO block or a 2.4 truck block from a import engine recycler . they dont have the oiling issues.

good luck.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by badhabit90
find an EVO block or a 2.4 truck block from a import engine recycler .
You mean like a Fuso truck block? I'm not sure which "Canter" or whatever came with a gas 4G64T, but I would be leery of those too. A lot of times they'll have a different bolt pattern for the bigger truck style transmissions. But I can see using one could be an advantage. Which model has it?
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Just use an eclipse 2000 and up or a Galant block. THere plentiful and dirty dead cheap
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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Cool

Originally Posted by GPTourer
You mean like a Fuso truck block? I'm not sure which "Canter" or whatever came with a gas 4G64T, but I would be leery of those too. A lot of times they'll have a different bolt pattern for the bigger truck style transmissions. But I can see using one could be an advantage. Which model has it?
i dont think it was a Fuso....my parents had a mitsubishi mighty max mini truck with that 2.4 block. it was a single cammed engine.

there was a local fella that was building one for his GSX Spider. only one of its kind. a 2.4block , a 2g Spider(convertable), and GSX drive train....had all the parts to finish but i think he ended up selling it to some road racer in southern California.

the 2.4 was in before the GSX drivetrain. lemme tell ya....it was fun.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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IIRC the mighty max has a wide bolt pattern on the transmission and theres some 2.4l out there with a matching wide pattern for the swap. Been several years since Ive really read about it, but I know theres a difference for the mighty max when doing rwd.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
IIRC the mighty max has a wide bolt pattern on the transmission and theres some 2.4l out there with a matching wide pattern for the swap. Been several years since Ive really read about it, but I know theres a difference for the mighty max when doing rwd.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. There was a 2.4L in a few early Montero Sports and I'm pretty sure those have the bigger bolt patter for RWD truck style transmissions and aren't a viable swap either.
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