New BW EFR Turbo Thread
I am curious, he made 612whp in the earlier dyno he posted at an unknown boost level.
He then posts the 480hp dyno showing 2.4bar boost (or as pointed out above, ~37psi).
So how did he go from 480whp @ 35psi to 612whp? Didn't look like the turbo had much more boost in it, so where did the extra power come from?
Something is not adding up IMHO.
He then posts the 480hp dyno showing 2.4bar boost (or as pointed out above, ~37psi).
So how did he go from 480whp @ 35psi to 612whp? Didn't look like the turbo had much more boost in it, so where did the extra power come from?
Something is not adding up IMHO.
Last edited by Texas_Ace; Dec 8, 2012 at 02:28 PM.
I am curious, he made 612whp in the earlier dyno he posted at an unknown boost level.
He then posts the 480hp dyno showing 2.4bar boost (or as pointed out above, ~35psi).
So how did he go from 480whp @ 35psi to 612whp? Didn't look like the turbo had much more boost in it, so where did the extra power come from?
Something is not adding up IMHO.
He then posts the 480hp dyno showing 2.4bar boost (or as pointed out above, ~35psi).
So how did he go from 480whp @ 35psi to 612whp? Didn't look like the turbo had much more boost in it, so where did the extra power come from?
Something is not adding up IMHO.
this is why
Ok, academic question here: 480 is about 21.57 percent off of 612. That sounds pretty reasonable to me. Can anybody explain how this is arrived at? Does it somehow come from measurements on the particular car in the test? Or is this more like a rule of thumb that is arrived at from other data? Or what?
Ok, academic question here: 480 is about 21.57 percent off of 612. That sounds pretty reasonable to me. Can anybody explain how this is arrived at? Does it somehow come from measurements on the particular car in the test? Or is this more like a rule of thumb that is arrived at from other data? Or what?

Same goes to Dastek dyno
During that ramp down I suppose you have to put the clutch in or put it in neutral to remove engine drag, then the dyno can figure out how much the drive train is dragging? - wait a minute, that's just drag with very little load, right? I guess I don't get it. How does that tell you how much power is lost when the whole drivetrain is under full load?
not only that, but also there is a large amount of power lost because of the friction between the tires and the dyno rollers
by the way a loss of 132 hp which is about 100 KW is enough energy to probably melt the transmission, so I wouldn't think that there is such a large amount of energy absorbed into the drive system
I have never really calculated the dynamics of a dyno but if I would have to guess from my experience I would assume that lose of power is more of an exponential graph of percentage loss, meaning the more power you make the less you lose up to a limit. people are using a liner calculation with the percent of loss as the divergent which in no way models the realistic situation
by the way a loss of 132 hp which is about 100 KW is enough energy to probably melt the transmission, so I wouldn't think that there is such a large amount of energy absorbed into the drive system
I have never really calculated the dynamics of a dyno but if I would have to guess from my experience I would assume that lose of power is more of an exponential graph of percentage loss, meaning the more power you make the less you lose up to a limit. people are using a liner calculation with the percent of loss as the divergent which in no way models the realistic situation
Last edited by Talx; Dec 9, 2012 at 03:57 AM.
HP to BTU calculator : http://convert.web-max.ca/index.php?select=58
132hp = 5602.08 BTU/min
Or 93 BTU/second.
So over a ~7 second dyno pull it is putting 650 BTU's into the drivetrain.
For anyone not fermiluar with BTU's, a BTU is how much energy it takes to raise the temp of a pound of water 1 degree.
So 650 BTU's is in theory enough energy to raise the temps of all the drivetrain fluids a few hundred degrees in a single dyno pull.
Only way I trust crank HP numbers is if it is on an engine dyno.
132hp = 5602.08 BTU/min
Or 93 BTU/second.
So over a ~7 second dyno pull it is putting 650 BTU's into the drivetrain.
For anyone not fermiluar with BTU's, a BTU is how much energy it takes to raise the temp of a pound of water 1 degree.
So 650 BTU's is in theory enough energy to raise the temps of all the drivetrain fluids a few hundred degrees in a single dyno pull.
Only way I trust crank HP numbers is if it is on an engine dyno.







