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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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Can anyone clear some numbers up for me?

I have been trying to figure out what the fastest 1/4 time and highest hp figure achieved by a EVO in the USA is?

Things I want to know are:

Fastest 0-60
Fastest 1/4 mile ET
Fastest 1/4 trap speed
High Hp both at the wheels and crank achieved and with what kit it was done with

estimates of these numbers are ok.

I am trying to put some numbers together to help me decide between buying a VW Golf R32, Subaru Impreza WRX STi, and a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII.

If you have any other info you think might help me decided between these cars please post that too.

I am looking to mostly use my next car as a drag strip (Straight line) car that will be daily driven and see the track maby twice a year. But, I live in Colorado and want a car that will be good in the snow so I want AWD. Thats why im not just going out and just buying a Camaro or somthing. Plus I like how AWD handels better after having my Audi.

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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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you have one problem..... with the right amount of money any car can be made "Fastest"

What kind of mods are u looking to make on the car? If your looking to drag race the car the evo is not a stock on stock drag race car, there are several mods that neet to be made to make this car a reliable drag car... dragginf it in stock conditions will only tear clutches and what nots up.... Sti is set up alittle better as far as stock conditions. It has locking diffs and is able to route a high amount of torque to the rear of the car. I'm not familiar with VW's at all and I don't know waht type of drivetrain they are using. If it was my choice i'd take the evo and simply swap out the clutch, remove the restrictor in the clutch slave and take it out untill sometihng broke (eventually it will give) The evo motor has be somewhat "prefected" over the last decade and I see it being superior to that of the STi or VW... The motor has been proven to hold high amounts of power in stock form and will only get better with additional internal parts. The STi's motor has yet to prove itself being it's first year in produciton.....

Happy shopping and I hope you enjoy whatever you choose, these are simply my opinions on the car and shouldn't make or break your decision.
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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The best ET belongs to Al, 11.50 on nitrous and 11.62 off nitrous.
Best MPH belongs to Ultimate Racing went 124 mph which is the best.

Highest MPH and ET on a stock turbo that is verified is us, 11.65 at 117.88 mph. Our EVO has a bone stock head, shortblock, turbo, intake and exhaust manifolds, 02 housing etc. The most major modification to the car is the 262 intake and exhaust cams.

Expect to see the EVO records continuosly fall next year.

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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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I am looking to do A LOT of upgrades to whatever car I get. I am planing on doing mostly engine mods, with some suspention and brake mods for handeling and track times. I plan to spend 10-15k on the car all said and done.

davidbuschur do you know the fastest 0-60?

Also what hp numbers are you getting from your car?

I am looking to get the most possible Hp and Toruqe I can out of my car for $10-15k all said and done while still being pretty reliable. I would like somthing in the form of a bolt on kit that doesn't require a whole lot of tuning once it is on the car.

Are you guys the best for what I want or do you know anyone better? What kind of Hp can i expect to have?

Thanks for the quick replys!

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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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As David said, mid-11s are the shortest quarter mile times we've seen. As time goes on, you'll start to see people in the low 11s and high 10s. Will you get that from an VW R32? Possibly, but the WRX STi and Evo enjoy a higher level of aftermarket support.

With a GT3037 or one of the new kits from RnR or SFP, you should be in the 11s. I think Al has the GT3037 and has something like 550 at the wheels. And I think he drives it almost every day. Boost Solutions is trying to build a 1000HP Evo. Is it attainable? I think so.

Once you've made a decision about your car, then you can plan out exactly what it'll take to get you to where you need to be.
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by BPAuto
Will you get that from an VW R32?
There's some interesting dirt on the R32 here... https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&highlight=R32 Shame the pictures don't come up anymore.
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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Do I think we are the best for you? Of course, so does every other shop out there though.

We have a kit, Stage 4, that is $4,000. The kit is quite extensive you can check it out at our website. We have made 360 whp and 304 ft lbs of torque with our stage 3 kit on 94 octane pump gas, the car ran 12.09 at 115 mph like this. With stage 4 on race gas we made 380 hp and 349 ft lbs of torque and ran an 11.65 at 117.88 mph.

0-60? Oh yeah, we have those numbers too. The EVO on the 11.65 pass had a 1.62 sixty foot time and ran from 0-60 mph in 2.6 seconds.

Check us out.

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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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Re: Can anyone clear some numbers up for me?

Originally posted by Sugar T
I have been trying to figure out what the fastest 1/4 time and highest hp figure achieved by a EVO in the USA is?

Things I want to know are:

Fastest 0-60
Fastest 1/4 mile ET
Fastest 1/4 trap speed
High Hp both at the wheels and crank achieved and with what kit it was done with

estimates of these numbers are ok.

I am trying to put some numbers together to help me decide between buying a VW Golf R32, Subaru Impreza WRX STi, and a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII.

If you have any other info you think might help me decided between these cars please post that too.

I am looking to mostly use my next car as a drag strip (Straight line) car that will be daily driven and see the track maby twice a year. But, I live in Colorado and want a car that will be good in the snow so I want AWD. Thats why im not just going out and just buying a Camaro or somthing. Plus I like how AWD handels better after having my Audi.

Thanks!
The R32 is going to be an N/A V6. Without expensive internal modifications bolting-on some sort of forced induction, I doubt you'll be able to match the Evo or STi powerwise without dropping some MAJOR coin.

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publi...nter_330.shtml
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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2.6sec 0-60 holy hell how can that be! Thats faster then the Ferrari Enzo! Are these times accurate?! If so I think you just made up my mind to go with the EVO!

I was just over on an STi board and from what I read it looks like the STi isn't taking mods all that good and the block can't handle much more the 400hp. So, that knocked the STi off my list most likely.

I was looking at the VW R32 because HPA has a 550hp kit that was tested at 0-30 in 1.01secs and 3.2sec 0-60 with a 11.47 1/4mile at 121mph. But, that looks like the highest number humanly possible out of the R32 plus the kit is estimated to be $20,000.00.

So it looks like it is between the EVO and the R32 and after reading the numbers on this board it looks like the EVO is right up there with the R32. But, the EVO has potential to go even farther!

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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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We have a kit, Stage 4, that is $4,000. The kit is quite extensive you can check it out at our website. We have made 360 whp and 304 ft lbs of torque with our stage 3 kit on 94 octane pump gas, the car ran 12.09 at 115 mph like this. With stage 4 on race gas we made 380 hp and 349 ft lbs of torque and ran an 11.65 at 117.88 mph.
SugarT, if David says his 0-60mph time is 2.6 seconds you can be pretty darn sure he's getting those times -- check out his drag racing credentials and I think you'll agree. The reason you see such phenomenal 0-60mph times is because of the AWD (and resulting traction) assuming it is launched correctly. Again, I think that we can safely assume the car was launched correctly.

I was looking at the VW R32 because HPA has a 550hp kit that was tested at 0-30 in 1.01secs and 3.2sec 0-60 with a 11.47 1/4mile at 121mph. But, that looks like the highest number humanly possible out of the R32 plus the kit is estimated to be $20,000.00.
Notice though that in your own example you have a 3.2 sec 0-60mph with a top speed of 121 for the R32. Is the Evo "faster" because it got to 60mph quicker? Well that depends. If the race was who got to 60mph first then yeah, but if the race was (as most drag races are) who got to the end of the track (1/4 mile) first, then no the R32 got there in 11.47 secs and David's evo in 11.65. Of course, David's upgrades cost significantly less than $20K.

Given more money to spend, I'm sure you'll see evo's beating the time you've posted for the R32. By all means get the evo, with the history of DSM drag racing to draw upon I think you'll be making a good choice.
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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Yeah I know that 0-60 isn't everything but that is incredable.

The R32 might have a slightly faster 1/4mile but after making this post it seems the EVO is still the better choice because of the price. I can get a EVO for 25-28k and the est base price for the R32 is 31k. So, for the extra cash I would pay for the R32 I could already have the Buschur stage 4 on the car! Not to mention the $ to HP is about four times greater on the R32 upgrade.

Now who wants to buy a 1998 Audi A4?
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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jsut remember RWD cars are no way compairable to AWD cars when looking at 60fts and 0-60's.... AWD cars are at such a huge advantage already with traction so when saying that it's faster then an Enzo, rather ask yourself is an Enzo as fast as it could be?? My guess is the Enzo is limited with traction on it's times....

I mean look how easy it is for use to hit 1.7-1.8 60ft's in stock form, where RWD cars need massive sticky tires or slicks to do it....

btw, i'd watch out for R32's I mean if one of those things has a twin turbo kit on it, man look out those kits are crazy on that car. I would doubt it would last though
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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1QWKEVO I noticed you have a 2004 WRX Sti aswell as the EVO. Is it safe to assume you like the EVO over the Sti?
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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very safe
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by 1QWKEVO
very safe
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