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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 04:30 AM
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one WG on divided manifold ?

hi guys, i'm new here;
i serched but not found straight answer - i'm doing custom divided manifold for gt35r wit t4 divided housing and i want to do only one WG with 2 separate pipes (1st form 1&4 cylinder and 2nd from 2&3) going straight into one WG (44 or 46mm) - will it work without boost creap ?
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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It should be fine as long as the fabricator does a good job on the wastegate flow path. Remember to keep a divider in there all the way up to the valve.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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i plan to
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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Not the greatest design/plan, but it has been done. I have a friend that has a single TiAL 38mm on a 42R on his DSM.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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so it's more us, that i expected
does he have any issues with that ?
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
Remember to keep a divider in there all the way up to the valve.
+1.

if you dont do a good job of that, it's all for nothing.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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so it's more us, that i expected
does he have any issues with that ?
He has a very *slight* boost creep, so don't expect to run any kind of low boost w/ only one EWG. He runs 37-38psi creeping to about 39.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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As stated earlier, it can be done but it must keep the gas flow separated all the way to the wastegate. Take a look at TedB's build thread. He may have even posted pics of it.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:05 PM
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why are you trying to avoid a second wastegate?
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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why are you trying to avoid a second wastegate?
weight, cost, complexity?
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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Dual gates would be better. Duals will give you better turbo spooup. As you can set the initial gate to open later since there will be a second gate to back it up.

Duh. For example .. Let's say that your target boost level is 27#: With two staged gates you could set the first gate really tight to 25# and the second gate to open at 27#. Otherwise if you only had a single gate then you would have to calibrate it looser and your turbo spoolup would suffer.

Of course, you probably have a different point of view. But that is OK. Needless to say, with dual gates you can run the 1st gate tighter since the 2nd gate backs it up. So, you will achieve faster turbo spoolup.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky
Dual gates would be better. Duals will give you better turbo spooup. As you can set the initial gate to open later since there will be a second gate to back it up.

Duh. For example .. with two staged gates you could set the first gate really tight to 25# and the second gate to open at 27#. Otherwise if you only had a single gate then you would have to calibrate it looser and your turbo spoolup would suffer.

Of course, you probably have a different point of view. But that is OK. With dual gates you can run the 1st gate tighter since the 2nd gate backs it up. So, you will achieve faster turbo spoolup.
i dont get it. sorry. but if you have 2 gates ''2 runners per gate'' then how would making one gate stiffer then the other be a good thing?

both my W/G's have 22 or 24 ''i forget'' PSI springs in them. i would like a minimum of 28 but i do not think they make springs that stiff.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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WG's are individually adjustable, are they not?
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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If you have dual gates then you can flow double the volume as a single gate, right? Duh.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky
WG's are individually adjustable, are they not?
i dont know. i thought only by spring pressure. o my. i feel a flame evodan coming on. haha
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