ATP'S GARRETT GTX3582R product review
You're all very welcome glad we at FFTEC can contribute some info to the community! 
CBRD - No worries about the OT we will figure something out for the intake as the scatter shield must stay as the owner is an avid drag racer and they are very strict at our tracks.
As far as comparing to any other turbo we will have to wait until we dyno it to make our own opinions.
FWIW we had a customer car that had a Cosworth 2.2L w/ the FP BLACK and he put down over 500 on our MD so we will at least have a ballpark idea of how they stack up along with plenty of other 30/35/40R cars as well as a recent customer that is running the BBK B on his stock long-block Evo9 that we recently re-tuned that made 460ish on our MD (he was hoping to eclipse the magic 500 barrier but came up just a bit short but it's a very impressive full-weight street car regardless)
I'm a bit confused about the whole AC ? as the condenser is located in front of the rad and this car will be running the oem rad but it does not have AC.
I'd imagine since ATP is marketing this as a "direct" bolt-on that it should clear all necessary things like the rad
Sorry if i missed some of your ?'s but i'm just getting off my reg job and heading to the shop to help close up.........fire away if you have more questions guys.......we hope to have it tune soon after some needed fab work on his exhaust set-up converting from his previous set-up.
CBRD - No worries about the OT we will figure something out for the intake as the scatter shield must stay as the owner is an avid drag racer and they are very strict at our tracks.
As far as comparing to any other turbo we will have to wait until we dyno it to make our own opinions.
FWIW we had a customer car that had a Cosworth 2.2L w/ the FP BLACK and he put down over 500 on our MD so we will at least have a ballpark idea of how they stack up along with plenty of other 30/35/40R cars as well as a recent customer that is running the BBK B on his stock long-block Evo9 that we recently re-tuned that made 460ish on our MD (he was hoping to eclipse the magic 500 barrier but came up just a bit short but it's a very impressive full-weight street car regardless)
I'm a bit confused about the whole AC ? as the condenser is located in front of the rad and this car will be running the oem rad but it does not have AC.
I'd imagine since ATP is marketing this as a "direct" bolt-on that it should clear all necessary things like the rad
Sorry if i missed some of your ?'s but i'm just getting off my reg job and heading to the shop to help close up.........fire away if you have more questions guys.......we hope to have it tune soon after some needed fab work on his exhaust set-up converting from his previous set-up.
You're all very welcome glad we at FFTEC can contribute some info to the community!
CBRD - No worries about the OT we will figure something out for the intake as the scatter shield must stay as the owner is an avid drag racer and they are very strict at our tracks.
As far as comparing to any other turbo we will have to wait until we dyno it to make our own opinions.
FWIW we had a customer car that had a Cosworth 2.2L w/ the FP BLACK and he put down over 500 on our MD so we will at least have a ballpark idea of how they stack up along with plenty of other 30/35/40R cars as well as a recent customer that is running the BBK B on his stock long-block Evo9 that we recently re-tuned that made 460ish on our MD (he was hoping to eclipse the magic 500 barrier but came up just a bit short but it's a very impressive full-weight street car regardless)
I'm a bit confused about the whole AC ? as the condenser is located in front of the rad and this car will be running the oem rad but it does not have AC.
I'd imagine since ATP is marketing this as a "direct" bolt-on that it should clear all necessary things like the rad
Sorry if i missed some of your ?'s but i'm just getting off my reg job and heading to the shop to help close up.........fire away if you have more questions guys.......we hope to have it tune soon after some needed fab work on his exhaust set-up converting from his previous set-up.
CBRD - No worries about the OT we will figure something out for the intake as the scatter shield must stay as the owner is an avid drag racer and they are very strict at our tracks.
As far as comparing to any other turbo we will have to wait until we dyno it to make our own opinions.
FWIW we had a customer car that had a Cosworth 2.2L w/ the FP BLACK and he put down over 500 on our MD so we will at least have a ballpark idea of how they stack up along with plenty of other 30/35/40R cars as well as a recent customer that is running the BBK B on his stock long-block Evo9 that we recently re-tuned that made 460ish on our MD (he was hoping to eclipse the magic 500 barrier but came up just a bit short but it's a very impressive full-weight street car regardless)
I'm a bit confused about the whole AC ? as the condenser is located in front of the rad and this car will be running the oem rad but it does not have AC.
I'd imagine since ATP is marketing this as a "direct" bolt-on that it should clear all necessary things like the rad
Sorry if i missed some of your ?'s but i'm just getting off my reg job and heading to the shop to help close up.........fire away if you have more questions guys.......we hope to have it tune soon after some needed fab work on his exhaust set-up converting from his previous set-up.
FWIW we had a customer car that had a Cosworth 2.2L w/ the FP BLACK and he put down over 500 on our MD so we will at least have a ballpark idea of how they stack up along with plenty of other 30/35/40R cars as well as a recent customer that is running the BBK B on his stock long-block Evo9 that we recently re-tuned that made 460ish on our MD (he was hoping to eclipse the magic 500 barrier but came up just a bit short but it's a very impressive full-weight street car regardless)
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I'd ve thought someone would have noted that the ATP turbo is wearing a port shrouded T04E compressor housing like the normal GT3076R and GTX 71's and 76's have std from Garrett . GT35Rs and GTX35Rs from Garrett have larger T04S family compressor housings standard and in the X's case its a T04S port shrouded one .
If this is the case then you can throw the Garrett GTX35R's compressor map away for the ATP unit because Garrett test with their matching of wheel and housing .
I imagine if they've re profiled a compressor housing to suit the 35X wheel there is the chance that the surge slot could be in the wrong position wheel height wise .
Could be wrong but .
If this is the case then you can throw the Garrett GTX35R's compressor map away for the ATP unit because Garrett test with their matching of wheel and housing .
I imagine if they've re profiled a compressor housing to suit the 35X wheel there is the chance that the surge slot could be in the wrong position wheel height wise .
Could be wrong but .
I'd ve thought someone would have noted that the ATP turbo is wearing a port shrouded T04E compressor housing like the normal GT3076R and GTX 71's and 76's have std from Garrett . GT35Rs and GTX35Rs from Garrett have larger T04S family compressor housings standard and in the X's case its a T04S port shrouded one . If this is the case then you can throw the Garrett GTX35R's compressor map away for the ATP unit because Garrett test with their matching of wheel and housing . I imagine if they've re profiled a compressor housing to suit the 35X wheel there is the chance that the surge slot could be in the wrong position wheel height wise. Could be wrong but .
edit: its interesting how their internal wastegate actuator mount was welded to the compressor housing
Last edited by Geoff Raicer; Feb 9, 2011 at 08:38 AM.
i see sorry got confused as i have been trying to keep the talk about the GTX3582R in this thread.......i will make another one specifically for the BW8374 but that will have to come a bit later as the cutsomer's car that's it's going on has different plans but currently he does run AC w/ a half sized rad.Sorry to go off topic Pat, but was the BBK-B evogirl916's car or another?? The BBK-B and the ATP GTX3076R are the two turbos are trying to decide between right now. Lack of results on the ATP are holding me back from purchasing it...I want to make sure the higher price of the ATP turbo and also the added cost of a 4 inch maf pipe and different LICP will be worth it....
I'd ve thought someone would have noted that the ATP turbo is wearing a port shrouded T04E compressor housing like the normal GT3076R and GTX 71's and 76's have std from Garrett . GT35Rs and GTX35Rs from Garrett have larger T04S family compressor housings standard and in the X's case its a T04S port shrouded one .
If this is the case then you can throw the Garrett GTX35R's compressor map away for the ATP unit because Garrett test with their matching of wheel and housing .
I imagine if they've re profiled a compressor housing to suit the 35X wheel there is the chance that the surge slot could be in the wrong position wheel height wise .
Could be wrong but .
If this is the case then you can throw the Garrett GTX35R's compressor map away for the ATP unit because Garrett test with their matching of wheel and housing .
I imagine if they've re profiled a compressor housing to suit the 35X wheel there is the chance that the surge slot could be in the wrong position wheel height wise .
Could be wrong but .
I dont know the specifics on that, but I do agree that a GTX3076R could benefit from the .70 a/r T04S ported shroud. there is a reason why robert @ forced performance's HTA30R use the .70 a/r T04S housing. I assume the smaller housing is used due to the 2" outlet being more similar to stock?
edit: its interesting how their internal wastegate actuator mount was welded to the compressor housing
edit: its interesting how their internal wastegate actuator mount was welded to the compressor housing
Geoff the whole WG welded to the comp housing was the very first thing i notice when it was shipped to us and i don't particularly care for it it but it is what it is i guess
Thanks for the interest guys again just need to do some needed fab work since the set-up on this particular car (not my RS) was much different on the d/p & exhaust system..........