Well, the car runs on EMS, and my Check Engine light is my shift light, so I don't really know I'm thinking my cam gears are right where they are, as the dowel pin is upright.

 

yes you are correct. you have your cam gears off by 90 degrees, and not temp 90 degrees. that mark you have up that is lined up to the valve cover is no the right one, its the one between the numbers, because the other one is the one that just shows the cam gears are lined up side by side.
MIKE
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r.../Timing121.jpg

 

I have BDL cam gears on my EVO, and the way im telling you is the way i have it set up on my EVO, and have never had a problem what so ever. i just trying to let you know that you may be off by a few teeth, like 12 or so.
MIKE

 

yeah, recheck my post. i edited it like 5 times in the last 5 minutes. im tired and my brain isnt as sharp as it was earlier.

 

I think you just have your dowel pins in the DSM position...

 

I see it now. That makes sense. I'm hoping I can get my tuner to swing by with his computer and check it out.

 

i dont see how he could ever get the intake cam to line up with the degree marks at the top while the other mark matches with the mark on the exhaust cam gear.

edit: if you unbolted the hub from the belt drive part and re indexed it you could on the exhaust, but not the intake.

 

tomorrow once i get home from work ill take a picture of my cam gears on my EVO at TDC, and post them up for you to see what i mean.
MIKE

 

I think it's the purple valve cover. Install the stock cam gears.

You're definitely not 90* out, as far as your actual timing goes.
Your dowels should be in the direction of the marks on the valve cover, facing up, which yours are. They are facing the correct direction. Them being dead on is a different story.
If they were 90* out, they would be in the 9 o' clock or 3 o' clock position.
I don't know what your pic of the crank pulley is supposed to be representing as you can't see the notch in relation the the alignment pointer.
They look as though the gears need to be installed using the other hole for the dowel pin.
IIRC, even the DSM pins faced up.. I think all 4G63 pins did.

 

Thanks for the response. Yeah, I suppose it may be the purple VC

Since the cam gears are at 0* and need to stay at 0*, the only adjustment I would have would be to move the gear an entire tooth, and the way it is now was the closest I could get it to line up with the gears at 0*. The pins are in the hole marked EVO. I was told that if I install them in the DSM location, then it won't run right, as there is a minor difference between the two. The picture of the crank pulley represents TDC, as when that pin hole is facing forward that signifies TDC.

 

i suggest pulling the cam gears, put the adj gear over the oem gear, verify that the dowel pin hole & teeth line up with the oem gear.

i have seen gears assembled wrong, made wrong, etc.....

if you built motors before, then swapping gears shouldnt be an issue & only take you ~1 hour to do from hood-up to hood closed.

also, i didnt notice if you added the cam gears with the cam swap or not... did you run the oem gears with the hks cams? if so, definately verify the clocking & marks of the new gears to the oem units.

 

I would pull the valve cover off and verify that everything is sitting right. Like no rockers fell off.

 

I actually did that. 3 times now. I'm almost 100% sure it's the tune, I just wanted verification that the timing was on.

 

Acutally, I used these gears with the Brian Crower cams that I had on before. I don't have stock cam gears to test, unfortunately. However, they were on the car working flawlessly for a few years now. If the timing looks to be on, then I can assume that it is the tune, as I have been back through the entire procedure 3 times now.

 

Leak down test......check your cas bolt is tight!