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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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CR calculation help

I need some help with a CR calculation. I am looking at getting Wiseco HD pistons for a E-85 setup. I want a CR of 10.5:1
This is the the spec of the pistons:

CR height: 1.378
Dish: 4.3cc
evo 9 gasket
Piston to Deck clearance -0.3

According to the specsheet it should have 10:1 CR, but when I calculate it I get 10.66. Am I doing it wrong? Could somebody please check.
Link to the pistons: https://www.wiseco.com/Catalogs/Spor.../MiniMitsu.pdf partnumber: K656M85
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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I got 10.46:1 using the eagle calculator.

I used 43cc head volume, 0.042 gasket (stock IX), -4.3cc dish, but it comes out at zero deck not down the hole as you showed.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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i thought the 9 gasket was something like .052"? also what kind of head work? my ported heads came out to 48cc's.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 09:51 PM
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His is a stock head, the gasket I forgot the IX had the extra layer. I think 042 is the VIII, we use 051 for all our builds and custom piston orders.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Aaron do you use a 9 gasket on a evo 8 ?
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 02:51 AM
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I know that this is an extremely newb question, but I am wondering where in these calculations an increase in bore size is taken into account. Would't one need to factor in any increase in bore diameter since I imagine that we are talking about overbore piston sizes which would increase swept cylinder volume in comparison to stock capacity?
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 09:34 AM
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We use stock VIII gaskets most of the time on VIII or IX. Depending on the build and power though we make adjustments as needed. Being that we do a lot of 2.4s right now we havent really revisited the 2.0L headgasket for awhile. I have several though running 44psi on the stock VIII gasket. All of our custom pistons are ordered assuming we use an 0.051 gasket (more or less the IX I see).
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
I got 10.46:1 using the eagle calculator.

I used 43cc head volume, 0.042 gasket (stock IX), -4.3cc dish, but it comes out at zero deck not down the hole as you showed.
The dish should be -4.5cc, I put the wrong numbers in the first post. And you are right it is zero deck. Still my numbers is different. I got 10.33.

I use metric btw.

Number of cylinders 4
Cylinder block bore diameter 85 mm
Cylinder block deck height 229 mm
Crankshaft stroke 88 mm
Cylinder head combustion chamber volume 43 cc
Piston Dish or Dome -4.5 cc
Piston Compression height 35 mm
Rod length 150 mm
Compressed headgasket thickness 1.06 mm
Total milled and decked block and head 0 mm

I thought the VIII gasket was 0.026 and the IX 0.042??? Anyone can confirm this?

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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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I'll measure one out in the shop later
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Sorry to dig this up but I just bought these to use in my evo3 (same thing as the dsm 7bolt motor)

Issue is that what ever cr you guy get I will get half a point less due to the 47cc combustion chamber.

With a 1.3mm head gasket I get around 9.5:1. Which I might add is a far cry from 10.5:1.

A 10.5:1 piston for me should be 11:1 for you guys.

I intend to call wiseco in a bit to get some clarification. I could have gotten the 10:1 je's damn it

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