Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

coolant pushing to overflow

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 17, 2012 | 06:15 PM
  #61  
The-Evo's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Honolulu, HI
Yup that's the head studs I am using. Maps dog point head studs.

As for my tuner, I am using a very reputable tuner. I will ask him how much timing I have on my race gas map?

Thanks guys for all your help. I guess only time will tell. I am so tired of fixing all my little issues at this point. I guess that's what I get when trying to build a race car by myself. Lol
Reply
Old May 17, 2012 | 06:35 PM
  #62  
shaggadelic's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Sunset RD
start off with the small easy fix's.... why assume you have a lifted head when you said so yourself that you have a cap that has over 80K miles of abuse?

also you told me that you were told a while back that your cap wasnt holding pressure this should have been replaced a while ago with a stock or aftermarket one. I put my money on this simple over looked part.

btw he does more roll racing then drag racing (no track here)
Reply
Old May 18, 2012 | 07:25 AM
  #63  
Adam Brunson's Avatar
Former Sponsor
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Cottage Grove, MN
Originally Posted by tscompusa
theres absolutely no need to run bigger then 1.1 bar (stock pressure) coolant cap.. unless the cars a time attack car or used heavily in endurance racing where it sees high RPM long periods of time.. then you can benefit from it since it will actually help cooling with the higher pressure ran in the system.

i think your tuners the problem.. to much timing maybe in the car or the boost control is not up to what it should be.. i dont know.

2.4's are very sensitive so you have to know what you're doing to keep them together at high boost / power levels.
He is running a long rod 2.0. It's either a tuning issue, or a gasket/surface problem. H11 and L19 are both the same style of head stud, bulkier and made out of tool steel.
Reply
Old May 18, 2012 | 10:55 AM
  #64  
tscompusa's Avatar
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 10,299
Likes: 67
From: PA
Originally Posted by shaggadelic
start off with the small easy fix's.... why assume you have a lifted head when you said so yourself that you have a cap that has over 80K miles of abuse?

also you told me that you were told a while back that your cap wasnt holding pressure this should have been replaced a while ago with a stock or aftermarket one. I put my money on this simple over looked part.

btw he does more roll racing then drag racing (no track here)
a radiator cap leaking out coolant just means its doing its job.. its supposed to open when you pass the certain pressure its rated for.. thats no problem..

now if it sticks closed then thats another story.. that can cause a lot of issues.

now the question is this.. why is it pushing coolant past the cap? head lifting is caused by tune ussually whether its to much boost or what.. but somethings causing the head to lift and pressurize the coolant system and push the coolant.

Last edited by tscompusa; May 18, 2012 at 10:59 AM.
Reply
Old May 18, 2012 | 10:57 AM
  #65  
tscompusa's Avatar
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 10,299
Likes: 67
From: PA
Originally Posted by Adam Brunson
He is running a long rod 2.0. It's either a tuning issue, or a gasket/surface problem. H11 and L19 are both the same style of head stud, bulkier and made out of tool steel.
ya except the h11 has the dog point which is what ill be swapping my l19's out for when the time comes.. plus Chris's price on them is badass.
Reply
Old May 18, 2012 | 02:10 PM
  #66  
Adam Brunson's Avatar
Former Sponsor
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Cottage Grove, MN
That is correct.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2012 | 07:56 PM
  #67  
chasesyellowevo's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Clinton,Ms
I have the same coolant loss problem. Losing it from overflow jug, did a compression test and had about 160 on all cylinders. Still havent solved the problem
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2012 | 01:06 PM
  #68  
The-Evo's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Honolulu, HI
I bought a new radiator cap, and it seemed to fix the problem for now.
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 07:39 PM
  #69  
240Z TwinTurbo's Avatar
Evolved Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,810
Likes: 329
From: Charlotte, NC
the overflow bottle, or expansion tank, is designed to compensate for expansion of coolant when it heats up. Therefore, you should not necessarily be alarmed if the coolant level rises in the expansion tank. Mine typically rises ~3/4" when warm and when it cools down it returns to normal.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 02:36 AM
  #70  
The-Evo's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Honolulu, HI
Mine didn't rise 3/4. Mine filled up to the top after 2 pulls. I put a new radiator cap and now it works fine


Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo
the overflow bottle, or expansion tank, is designed to compensate for expansion of coolant when it heats up. Therefore, you should not necessarily be alarmed if the coolant level rises in the expansion tank. Mine typically rises ~3/4" when warm and when it cools down it returns to normal.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 04:41 PM
  #71  
TeachersEvo's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 131
Likes: 1
From: Oregon
I have a similar issue, just ordered a cap. Hope that fixes it, as it did for you.

Although it is not as much after pulls, mostly just after long trips...
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2012 | 03:14 AM
  #72  
The-Evo's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Honolulu, HI
Let us know if it fixes your problem?




Originally Posted by TeachersEvo
I have a similar issue, just ordered a cap. Hope that fixes it, as it did for you.

Although it is not as much after pulls, mostly just after long trips...
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2012 | 12:47 PM
  #73  
jpVIII's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: Southeast Tx
If it is a closed loop system, how could atmospheric pressure air be introduced into a pressurized liquid loop. I'm a process operator and this kind of stuff is what I see day to day. Think about it. You have a liquid in a closed loop being overpressured by another source of energy......

1) the glycol expansion theory could hold up only if you were to do the same test vs. distilled water and see if the level of distilled water doesn't rise.
2)radiator fluid is a ethylyne glycol/water mixture. it expands to some degree but not as much people think when its under pressure.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2012 | 03:44 AM
  #74  
The-Evo's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Honolulu, HI
I don't know what to tell you. I am not a process operator, but it worked for me. I am not an expert on this subject but wouldn't the water pump have anything to do with the movement of the coolant? I mean the harder and faster I push the car, doesn't the water pump increase in speed also? Wouldn't that create some pressure?

Originally Posted by jpVIII
If it is a closed loop system, how could atmospheric pressure air be introduced into a pressurized liquid loop. I'm a process operator and this kind of stuff is what I see day to day. Think about it. You have a liquid in a closed loop being overpressured by another source of energy......

1) the glycol expansion theory could hold up only if you were to do the same test vs. distilled water and see if the level of distilled water doesn't rise.
2)radiator fluid is a ethylyne glycol/water mixture. it expands to some degree but not as much people think when its under pressure.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2012 | 01:11 PM
  #75  
5LEEPERISAH23I's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,544
Likes: 1
From: Malvern, PA
Originally Posted by ta ace
coolant pushes to my overflow bottle ONLY after a WOT pull ..
doesnt smoke or
run bad or
have bubbles in coolant or
milky coolant or
milky oil

maybe the head lifting??

L19 studs cometic HG torqued to 100 lbs

coolant pressure test it holds pressure no leaks.. aany ideas?

just went to FF 6262 setup only at 33 psi now was at 40 on old setup w/o issues but w/ full size radiator.


any ideas? think the HG is just blown?
i had the same issue, i cheacked my TQ on the head bolts. turns out i was overfilling the overflow bottle. stop adding coolent in the overflow no over heating problems. try it stop filling it up n just check ur rad levels
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:27 AM.