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Old May 15, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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The actuator originally was deemed 23PSI. We swapped that with the 18PSI Turbosmart which lessend the issue. The car was run with no(direct routing...no solenoid) boost controller and the WGDC(only one table is used with a 3 port) was set to zero. Both tests yield the same results. The car starts at 18PSI and creeps to 26+ towards redline. This phenomenon is present with or without the Cobb controlling boost.

There is minimal pre-load on the arm...as designed to stop the flapper from moving in non boosted situations. The Downpipe was on the shop car initially, and had no issues with back pressure, so that is not the cause(it is also massive at the opening and then filters into a 3").

We are working with Sean. We want to see this issues resolved for him as quickly and painlessly as possible. Hopefully, we can figure this out ASAP.

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Minimal pre-load is exactly what though? I'm just curious how the pre-load looks in relation to the hole of the actuator arm.

The Turbosmart actuator should of came with a separate spring, put it in there.

Thank you for chiming in and shedding some light, I'm sure we will all be able to get this figured out without too much of a hassle.
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Old May 15, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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Anyone with the EF2 on an IX or VIII are seeing the same prb?? I believe my tuner did mention about seeing some boost creep with my EF2 as well, but he couldn't finish the tune becoz my clutch started letting go...hmmm...I haven been limbing my Evo ever since i put the turbo and other mods on back in March...
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Old May 15, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Brunson
Minimal pre-load is exactly what though? I'm just curious how the pre-load looks in relation to the hole of the actuator arm.

The Turbosmart actuator should of came with a separate spring, put it in there.

Thank you for chiming in and shedding some light, I'm sure we will all be able to get this figured out without too much of a hassle.
The one "turn" can sometimes make a difference in 4-5lbs....
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Old May 15, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Why would he want to put the other spring in there as that would bring it from 18psi to 23psi?
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Old May 15, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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Eliminating all possible angles. If the spring isn't strong enough to keep it closed all the way before hitting its target pressure, it could open up prematurely and fill the downpipe with pressure, then when it opens all the way there is already a ton of pressure built up and is causing back pressure.

Think of a clogged drain (Choked up downpipe), if you pour water into the drain slowly it will not back up and overflow. However if you pour slowly then dump a bucket of water in there it will back up and overflow.

I understand air and fluid cannot be compared but pressure is pressure....
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Old May 16, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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Any updates on this?
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Old May 16, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Working with him via PM, will post what we come up with!
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Old May 16, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Brunson
Minimal pre-load is exactly what though? I'm just curious how the pre-load looks in relation to the hole of the actuator arm.
This!!! It's been asked about a hundred times so far and we've yet to get an answer. Help us help you.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Settle down, its getting checked out!
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Old May 16, 2012 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Brunson
Settle down, its getting checked out!
It was directed at Sean/Akuma, not you
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Old May 16, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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And my response is for them... I am working with Sean to get it figured out.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 05:09 AM
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Can't thank Adam enough for helping. This is my daily driver and I work a lot and have a 2 year old. Also I have like zero mech skills so this may take sometime. Right now trying to give Adam some data logging.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 05:44 AM
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Once this is ironed out, we will be able to update the thread. We want a solution for Sean ASAP.

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Old May 17, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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Definitely!
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Old May 25, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam Brunson
Eliminating all possible angles. If the spring isn't strong enough to keep it closed all the way before hitting its target pressure, it could open up prematurely and fill the downpipe with pressure, then when it opens all the way there is already a ton of pressure built up and is causing back pressure.

Think of a clogged drain (Choked up downpipe), if you pour water into the drain slowly it will not back up and overflow. However if you pour slowly then dump a bucket of water in there it will back up and overflow.

I understand air and fluid cannot be compared but pressure is pressure....
Air is a fluid.
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