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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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What's is the best clutch u can buy? Best I mean best
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
If there were only a handful of failures out of a hundred builds then my statement could be taken as negative. My statement is a cold hard fact. As a matter of fact you dont even have to group 93 octane only. over 600whp is just plain unreliable with any gas. Very few people actually get enjoyment from their cars above 600whp. Very few. This board would be ridden with failure threads if everybody actually posted about their high hp failures. Only a few percent actually do. the sadder Truth to the high hp saga is most end up leaving the hobby from it. they spend every available dollar (and worse some max their credit cards out) and they dont plan on failing. they brake thousands of dollars in parts unexpectedly that they cant afford to replace they bail from the hobby with their tail between their legs. only the smart few realize reliability is far more important than the hp bug.
I'm missing the point of ur post? If people don't realize that at these higher hp levels there is gonna be issues and failures along the way that's their fault. I plan on making like 750+, does a 4 cylinder with that much power take maintenence.... Um ya? I mean I'm with ya on that these cars can be dead fun at like 450-500 and pretty reliable, but what fun is that.... If u don't like working on ur car when it makes a bunch of power then the evos not for u?

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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
If there were only a handful of failures out of a hundred builds then my statement could be taken as negative. My statement is a cold hard fact. As a matter of fact you dont even have to group 93 octane only. over 600whp is just plain unreliable with any gas. Very few people actually get enjoyment from their cars above 600whp. Very few. This board would be ridden with failure threads if everybody actually posted about their high hp failures. Only a few percent actually do. the sadder Truth to the high hp saga is most end up leaving the hobby from it. they spend every available dollar (and worse some max their credit cards out) and they dont plan on failing. they brake thousands of dollars in parts unexpectedly that they cant afford to replace they bail from the hobby with their tail between their legs. only the smart few realize reliability is far more important than the hp bug.
I completely agree with you in said bolded statement. My setup consists of a 2.4L, ported manifolds, S2's, a Nisei, and a IX turbo, so I'm in the reliability department with you for what it's worth.

However, I feel as if one does their research, buys the right parts from the right places, and doesn't beat the living dog **** out of their car, it's surely obtainable. I'm in support of the OP because I don't have pump E85 in the area.

The other point I was going to make is that making a goal and always driving on kill mode are two different things. When I say my goal is to eventually make 600whp on pump I feel as if I, along with other enthusiasts, make that power to reach their goal but barely ever actually utilize their car at that HP level, which would add some reliability to the equation.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
turbos dont make power , good setups do.

a bigger turbo in your setup will just create more lag for small gain in top end power. car wont get faster at track and may get slower. stock frame turbos dont fall on their face at 7000 when setup well. there is something wrong with your setup. a bigger turbo will be like a band aid on the problem

my advice would be figure out why you are not running 10 flat with the 2.4 black before considering a larger snail.
I agree. Just going to a larger turbo will increase turbo lag and will decrease you daily drivability.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by aXxICExXa
I agree. Just going to a larger turbo will increase turbo lag and will decrease you daily drivability.
I disagree to a point, if u have a built engine and valvetrain that can rev high enough to keep it in boost between shifts, a bigger turbo is gonna be faster at the track as long as theres enough fuel and ignition to support it..... Street drivability wise it's not gonna be fun, but if u can't make a setup faster on a bigger turbo at the track ur not doing something right.... I don't see any fp blacks runnin 8's.....
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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To offer another point to this since you said "decrease daily drivability", I actually liked my laggy 10:1 2.0L/35R combo for daily driving better than my 2.4L/IX Turbo, as I could just cruise around town out of boost before and get Honda-like gas milage lol.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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No Garrett Love? Why Not a turbo like the GTX3582R? I like the Precision units, but Garrett's reliability cannot be beaten. 700+ horsepower and awesome powerband, sounds like a win win to me....
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 03:57 AM
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Isn't all FP turbos Garrett? That is what the "GT" (Garrett Turbo)stands for, right?
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 04:08 AM
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You all are saying that the FP turbo will last longer than a PTE turbo. A friend of mine is rocking the 6262 on his evo for a while now with no problems. Dont both turbo company's warranties on there turbo.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 04:11 AM
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6466!
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 05:06 AM
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Add a poll to this thread. This should be fun. Go ahead people vote away.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 05:24 AM
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I got garrett love" im rockin the gt40 n love it kinda wish i woulda went with the 35r though but owell
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ETS Michael
6466 - Check out Kings Performance Graph. The 6766 is proven over and over again.

The HTA3586 is another great upgrade, but for more top end the 6466 or 6766, the 3794 seems to be a bit laggy in my opinion.

Michael
Agreed.. Just got my 6466 from ETS on monday!
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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Turbo choice is never easy.. And as you can see the opinions are all over the place. Stick with a turbo and commit to it.. Thats all you can do... In my case i went ts hta3586 1.06ar... Felt it would be great for dd. My buddy has an old school 35r that spools at 5k, and honestly for dd... Its awsome.. Drop a gear and go. He is the main reason i went with 3586, the newer style should out spool and perform the old... And ill be more than happy with that gl buddy
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Here is an email I got from Buschur:

As for the turbo choice. **The HTA86 is my all time favorite T3, they are hard to get at times and the PTE6466 is a little bit less expensive and also works very good, so either one will work well for you. *The 6466 may even work better on the 2.4 to be honest.

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