I belive the PTE 5857 is discontinued and the CEA 5858 took its place.

Contenders in that region are the EFR 7670, PTE CEA 5858, GTX3076R/3071R, HTA3076.

However HTA 3076 seems to have the most results on the web. Dave has a thread on one he used on his stoker, he seemed to love it as a 600whp max turbo.

I hear boost control is far superior with external WG's that internals. That may be another consideration if you plan on road racing.

 

ANy numbers on it?

 

From Dave's thread,

HTA3076 34->27 psi

HTA3586
HTA3082 (FP3065 conversion)
HTA3076 .63 T3 (The HTA3076 hit 610 ft lbs and 609 whp in the .82 housing)

2500 rpm, HTA86, 115/57
2500 rpm, HTA82, 125/62
2500 rpm, HTA76, 125/62

3000 rpm, HTA86, 133/76
3000 rpm, HTA82, 144/82
3000 rpm, HTA76, 153/87

3500 rpm, HTA86, 181/120
3500 rpm, HTA82, 207/138
3500 rpm, HTA76, 233/155

4000 rpm, HTA86, 281/214
4000 rpm, HTA82, 342/260
4000 rpm, HTA76, 414/315

4500 rpm, HTA86, 456/390
4500 rpm, HTA82, 482/410
4500 rpm, HTA76, 520/440

5000 rpm, HTA86, 540/510
5000 rpm, HTA82, 516/486
5000 rpm, HTA76, 529/499

5500 rpm, HTA86, 546/567
5500 rpm, HTA82, 513/532
5500 rpm, HTA76, 522/542

8000 rpm, HTA86, 458/679
8000 rpm, HTA82, 389/579
8000 rpm, HTA76, 378/563

 

thank you for that information

 

A single scroll 3076 IMHO has nO use due to the FP RED and BLACK.

 

Yes the original 3071 and 3076 are old hat compared to modern fp/cbrd/map turbos. The GTX versions really bring something new and relevant though. Especially in T4 twin scroll. Just take a look at 240z twin turbo's gtx3076r results in his dyno thread.

 

I completely agree. Unless you're buying the GTX series a Red would be a much better turbo.

 

Look at maybe a FP GT3076HTA? Buschur tried one out some time ago and sang its praises quite nicely, iirc it basically schooled an EFR7670 setup on the same motor - or something along those lines.

Edit - missed that there was already a page 2 in this thread making my post almost redundant, so consider this a +1 for the HTA76

 

Fine but you are giving up twin scroll which is a HUGE HUGE benefit. You are also giving up a stock frame turbo which keeps and Evo an evo verses some laggy car that makes power up top. I DD a Red and get boost in the 3000's on a street car with a Stock Bottom end. The way I see relevant turbos is this:

Stock IX Turbo
HKS Bolt On turbo for faster than stock spool and slightly more power.
BB GREEN-RED-BLACK. The last two are 9 second turbos PEOPLE the Green is an Easy ten Second turbo all with great spool and factory characteristics. The Black does begin however to show more on-off characteristics which is why I have the RED.
GT35R, spools later than a Black but is a tried and true monster
62- Variants, great but laggy but make BIG power if that is what you want.

The 40-42R series. Obviously top end monsters.

There are other stock Frame turbos but none that I personally like but if you do more power to you.

 

Smurf,

Just copy my build. That's all you need to do. I'm having mine retuned on SD for E85 and 93 this week. I will have dyno plots of both, PLUS a road race tune on 93. The black is the best of all worlds. Turn it down to 24 psi for a road race or throw E85 back into it and turn the wick up to 35psi for 650hp. No brainer.

-Acree

 

I would not recommend a GT30r turbine wheel for a 2.4L. I have shown on my 2L that the GTX3576r will spool as fast as a GTX3076r, but make more power on top. For Garrett options the GTX3576r would be the right choice. No need to go to the larger GTX3582r for a solid 500hp@wheels on 93 octane.

 

If you decide to go stock frame forward facing let me know sir & I will get you a quote! Collin's kit (02 dump/housing) is made to work with a stock location downpipe. I had a bad experience with an FP Red turbo so I switched to CBRD's BBK line. Had a BBK Full first & then upgraded to a BBK-B. BBK-B is definitely a fun street turbo, Chad keeps wanting me to send it back to upgrade it to the BB version but I am too lazy to pull it off. Our stock frame forward facing kit with a BB BBK-B or BBK-C would be a badass setup! Both of those turbos rock the anti-surg compressor housing & blue compressor wheel to go along with your car!

 

I too run a red and love the characteristics....BUT what about reliability? I have less than 20,000 miles on my red and it has about an 8th of an inch of in/out shaft play which suggests impending bearing failure...it hasnt failed yet and doesnt even smoke but I am holding my breath lol.

 

I have a little bit of lag time Arcee so ill watch you build close.

Yet another suggestion I was given was upgrade the 6265 to 6266 and put a smaller housing on,it. Currently I'm 1.00 but it was suggested to go to .63.

I don't know if neutering this turbo is the answer though. I'd be lying if I didn't say the thought of a turbo from a known reputable manufac. In a orientation that hasn't been done yet (or that often) is intriguing.

Arrrghhhhh. Decisions decisions. I don't want to make the wrong one.

 

.63 is a single scroll A/R. So much misleading info being tossed around.

I would not go any smaller than you already have on a ts t3 housing