Just got my EVO back today. The tech told me that ALL but one model he could think of had this problem and it was an oversensitive program. He assured me that the tranny was unneccesary but was happy to do it ($$$.) They also installed my exhaust and clutch but not shifter. Said he wasn't sure, think he didn't want to spend the time. No biggie, I did it at home in under an hour. Gotta say, it feels good to have the baby home and damn are this minimal mods nice. Keep fighting the good fight. I am always available for assistance.

 

Ok, after 500 miles on the new tranny the 0300 has thus far stayed away. Between 2 dealerships the car has had mutltiple sensors replaced, new computer and most recently a new tranny plus 6 friction modifiers, 1 clutch disk, 1 clutch cover assy. Apparently, the transmission input shaft vibration was being picked up from the crank sensor and telling the ECU to pull timing causing the misfire and hesitation. Mitsubishi covered all repairs under warranty and paid for my rental car for 3 weeks. Anyway, I feel that Mitsu took care of my problem only after I threatened to sue them with the aid of my lawyer. Only time and mileage will tell if this problem has truly been fixed. Don't let Mitsu delay any repairs on your vehicles. Would you believe the service adviser tells me, " hopefully the next time we see you your warranty will be up". What kind of --it is that.

 

jess, just be aware the problem will resurface for you once your tranny has broken in... expect it to be ok for the next 4-5k miles.

Hopefully by then the ecu fix will be out and we'll all be set. Glad it's worked out for you, and I agree that's some crap to hear from your SM.

 

Well well well it appears to be that I have some rather unsettling news...

Originally I was slated to receive a credit in the form of a payment for my car loan from Mitsubishi, for which in return I would give my silence on this whole issue until mid-June when the reflash was supposed to be released. Keep in mind it was this, or the transmission replacement which costs appx. 12x what a car payment would be...

Apparently Mitsu has now not only denied my credit, they have also denied me any future transmission warranty work (read as: I get no replacement ) and cited the reasoning for this as "modifications". Furthermore they have plucked my posts from this forum ( ) and are apparently holding that as evidence that I am not eligible for fair warranty work for this well-known, well-documented, already-admitted problem that Mitsubishi is working on fixing (you know, because I'm ineligible and the problem doesn't actually exist or warrant any type of post-purchase repair from Mitsu ).

I'd like to offer a HUGE thanks to those at Mitsu who are reading this now, and please note that serious legal proceedings are about to occur to rectify this situation immediately. You will fix this issue and you will recognize that it is not a problem with anything that I have done to the car, and that it is an inherent problem with these vehicles (which I happen to know YOU already know).

HUGE thumbs down to you, MMNA.

 

do you have anything in writing?

 

Not yet, after work I will be calling them to get it all faxed over.

Words can't possibly convey the anger I am containing right now.

 

I guess they saw that you have EVO VII tail lights and voided your warrenty I hate Mitubishi and will never buy another car from them again, and its only because of there service dept. Before my evo I only owned Toyotas and when I brought my car or truck in for warrenty work which wasn't very often it was always we will fix it no questions asked. Mitus needs to get a clue or they will go bankrupt and nobody will give a ****. A big for a dead company.

 

Yes whomever is making these calls to void warranties left and right unfounded needs to be relinquished of their duties, or just have their title adjusted to "Warranty Denial and Mitsubishi Bankrupcy Contributor".

 

Maybe it would be in my best interest to remove my signature? NOT. This is total bull****. Dude, I can't believe this!! If Mitsubishi is reading this, it is very bad news for them. I have my 300ZX TT back and don't need this car, I might as well cancel my order for a 6 spd and I don't care if you bring the MR. Everyone should restate their intention on the petition for the MR to state that we would prefer a fair company.

Unfortnately, my dealership is awesome. Maybe you shold bring the car down here.

 

Bob, not a far off idea honestly.

I just got off the phone with MMNA vehicle customer assistance. They insisted that they are right and I am wrong. The line they kept feeding me was "blah blah... we state in your warranty booklet that any modifications void your warranty... blah blah" OVER and OVER and OVER. Even after repeated attempts by me to reference the magnuson-moss act they persisted.

I have no choice but to enter the arbitration process according to them. I don't know what I should do next. Opinions? I can wait for the ecu reflash, I can obtain a lawyer and make sure that I can sue them for being morons (costly to me), or I can drive to Boston.

Maybe I'll make the trip...

 

Go get 'em.

They don't have a choice on Magnuson-Moss. They HAVE to PROVE your mods caused the 'failure'.

I tell ya what, I was supposed to go look at and possibly buy an Evo this week but will wait for resolution of this issue before buying anything from these guys. This is starting to sound eerily like the STi ping fix flash.

 

First, IANAL.
Second, speaking to a lawyer costs nothing. It is a good way of finding out what the chances you have against Mitsu will be. Find a reputable lawyer, no it is not easy to do. Call the NY bar assoc. and ask for someone who has dealt with these issues.
Third, Call my guy again and tell him what is going on. Ask if he can help. You never know.
Call me if I can help.

 

Webguy330i, who is Bob? My name is Homer.

 

I meant Moe, but I was wrong anyways.

 

I have contacted a warranty lawyer in the state of NY in the hopes that I can get some legal ammunition for Mitsubishi.

I also read through my entire warranty booklet for the evo, and found only this about the warranty exclusions for modifications (pg. 6):


WHAT IS NOT COVERED
(New Vehicle Limited Warranty)

Alteration, Misuse, or Accident Damage
...
- Alteration or modification of your vehicle, including but not limited to, the body, chassis, braking system, or other components.
...


Now to me, that sounds like "your warranty will not cover any parts you replace or modify on your car which are not a Mitsubishi part". So they are saying they won't cover anything modified or installed that isn't Mitsubishi-approved. Fine! That being the case, it does not apply to me in this situation.

They also state that "As the vehicle owner, you should also be aware that MMNA may deny you warranty coverage if your vehicle or a part has failed due to abuse, neglect, improper maintenance or unapproved modifications." (pg 16).

Once again, my vehicle or a part has not failed due to unapproved modifications, regardless of whether my modifications are approved or not. They have not proven this nor have they even investigated it. Onward and upward...

Another quote from the warranty booklet (pg. 20):

The warranty does not cover:
...
Damages resulting from a defect in a part not designated by MMNA...
...


Once again, a conditional, not applicable to my situation.

Another, on pg. 25:

Note: aftermarket parts or accessories not supplied or approved by MITSUBISHI are NOT covered under this warranty.

OK, no problem! I never asked you to cover my exhaust. This doesn't even apply to me since I am in the US, not a US territory or possession.


That's it folks, no explicit mentioning of anything remotely close to "modifications will void your warranty plain and simple" as they'd like you to think.

That having been said, I guess I have a legal leg to stand on now. More info to come...