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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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$1500 dollar mod list. Advice needed

Well my car is mostly stock engine wise. 10.5 hotside, JMF Exhaust Mani, Walbro 255, TBE, Tune, no boost control around 23psi. Its a great autocross setup in the STU class.

Now I am looking at running in SM class and doing some track days.

So heres what I thought of so far.
---These prices are parts quoted as used and shipped to the door. So no new parts for this $1500 parts list.

Low mile IX turbo with all lines. $450
Enough injector for e85. $250
ETS intercooler. $400
o2 dump - $200
Hallman MBC - $100

What would you do?

Whats Next?

You Decide!
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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first off evo 9 turbo isnt what your going to want to go with IMO if your trying to do straight line racing. These cars are weak high end power.

Is this your daily driver

You need to give more info such as year of the car miles etc.

I would suggest getting your belts replaced with racing belts as well and a new water pump if you havent already.

I would change tranny and dif fluid as well

I would also do a boost leak before any more mods are done

AS for mods I would suggest 1600cc injectors they will be a decent bit ruffer then say 1000 but you will be able to jump up a turbo and be fine on e85

Id personally have done hours of research and found that fp red is where I my self prolly want to go to make great HIGH end power as well as amazing turbos for e85. Cause nothings worse then being a demon from a dig and being a joke from a roll.

That said with an fp or really anything I would

uicp and licp

and you should be good I just dont find from what I have read as well as talking to tuners that an evo9 turbo is really worth the money.
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dailygrind
Well my car is mostly stock engine wise. 10.5 hotside, JMF Exhaust Mani, Walbro 255, TBE, Tune, no boost control around 23psi. Its a great autocross setup in the STU class.

Now I am looking at running in SM class and doing some track days.

So heres what I thought of so far.
---These prices are parts quoted as used and shipped to the door. So no new parts for this $1500 parts list.

Low mile IX turbo with all lines. $450
Enough injector for e85. $250
ETS intercooler. $400
o2 dump - $200
Hallman MBC - $100

What would you do?

Whats Next?

You Decide!
First off, everything I say is based off of the assumption that you will address your suspension/tires/brakes with a different budget, as they will (along with seat time) net you faster times than engine mods.

Especially if you're doing E85, the IX turbo will not really net you much at all over a 05' VIII turbo (10.5), contrary to popular belief. It is not worth the extra $450 IMO.

Injectors will likely be necessary for E85. However, don't be fooled by the "get the biggest possible" mentality when choosing injectors. Check out Mellon's Injector Guide to get the appropriate injector for your setup/goals.

The ETS is a great choice for a FMIC. If you happen to find one for cheap, I also really like the Nisei/JMFab/CBRD units.

As far as a dump, the Muse 02 dump will function great for the money. I have a JMF piece and would recommend it due to a better overall quality (along with the MAP or ToxicFab if you can find one used), but the Muse will surely suffice.

The Hallman Pro is always a solid choice for MBC. While you're in there I'd recommend throwing another spring in your WG to help stop taper a bit, which will be good for a few ponies up top.

So far, that puts you at:

Injectors: $200 (used in Marketplace)
FMIC: $400-500 (used in Marketplace)
Dump: $200-250
MBC: $100

Total: $1050 (high end)


Another important mod would be your LICP. With JMF, Nisei, and ETS, you really can't go wrong. You can find one used in the Marketplace for under $200. I got my Nisei LICP used for $125 shipped.

Next, I would highly recommend sending your IM to Curt Brown for porting. That will run you $175 for his standard port.

That puts you at $1350. If I were you, I'd put the extra $250 towards some good fluids and a tune .


I also noticed you don't have cams. I didn't include them on this list because I'd recommend doing springs/retainers (Kiggly's if you have the cash) while you're in there doing cams. An S1 (NSR) or an S2 (SR) will work great for you setup, but will take some extra funding if you do springs/retainers at the same time.

Most importantly, enjoy the car!
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 11:47 PM
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winkdogydog- i dont think you read his post. he's not straight line racing.

first off i dont know how you pass in STU but your not legal for it.
i would NOT get an fp red, your not drag racing. a stock characteristic spooling turbo is what u want if you decide to upgrade. bbk-full

you should just get more seat time in your car. if you want to be competitive you need good suspension and driving skills.
brakes, suspension, tires is what i would actually do. then maybe licp.
adding parts to go faster can sometimes make you go slower.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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Blue91lx Thanks. The rest of the car is done up pretty well. Suspension, wheels and brakes are good to go. Got a shep trans so it feels good also. The engine/clutch is basically stock. Forgot the car also has a JMF o2 housing.

sujinX, I don't know the fine details about the STU class but the previous owner competed with it on a national level. Its maxed out in the class but I thought it was legal. Its not tuned for boost which is legal. Its just boost creep. All the mods are after the turbo. sujinX let me know what isn't legal so I can take care of it.

winkdogydog101, No its not a daily driver. I bet your setup would produce the most power for sure but the FP Red is to much turbo for me. I like quick spool. Im not doing drag racing and still want to be competitive in autox. But I have heard that larger turbos help stock blocks stay together under abuse. Sounds strange to me but hey many people talk about it. Maybe I should ride in a Red car to see.

ETS Michael, I bet! Its not a shiny new one from you guys...but still its ETS!

I had thought about the FP Green, ETS Intercooler, LICP, and ARP headstuds. Do 93 octane. Done.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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E85 is a terrible idea if you plan on attending track days. Also, don't forget your gonna need money for a tune after you install those parts.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Like said before i dont think you will real gain much from the 9 turbo.
I dont know if you have this yet but you may want to look in to the shep or tre read diff mod. This will help you on auto cross. look for some fic 1100 cc injecters. Fmic and a good tune and you will have a fun little car you can throw around on the auto x course
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by grillpt
E85 is a terrible idea if you plan on attending track days. Also, don't forget your gonna need money for a tune after you install those parts.
Yea I was surprised when I went to VIR and didn't see E85. Most autox events I can bring a small can for E85 but not nearly enough for track days. I thought in the near future VIR and CMP would get E85? Maybe not.

Maybe I could use a 93 map at track days and just put in the race gas from the pumps there.

Yea tune is gonna be at least 500 I would think. Maybe less with a remote tune?

Originally Posted by thepoint4life23
Like said before i dont think you will real gain much from the 9 turbo.
I dont know if you have this yet but you may want to look in to the shep or tre read diff mod. This will help you on auto cross. look for some fic 1100 cc injecters. Fmic and a good tune and you will have a fun little car you can throw around on the auto x course.
You are most likely right about the power mods. The car feels so good to me I think the diff mod is above my driving level. Or maybe I don't have the power to notice the problem yet? But the car feels planted the entire time no traction loss in a corner.

I just thought the 9 turbo was the way to go for more punch. Maybe just cams and stock 8 turbo?
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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ACD tuning- 300 (if you have a 05 or 06 evo)
ETS IC - def. for those hot autocross/track days - 500
o2 dump - would be great, but I thought autocross regulate noise ordiance in STU/SM
FIC 1050 - used 200-275
tune - 200
Pocket the rest and/or change maintence on wear and tear parts like brake pads and fluids.
or start saving for BBK Full
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by grillpt
E85 is a terrible idea if you plan on attending track days.
wholeheartedly agree.

i did half tank 93/half tank vp100 last time out...worked great.

100oct is like crack though.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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From: Why do they always call the Evo the Dark Side?
Originally Posted by dailygrind
Well my car is mostly stock engine wise. 10.5 hotside, JMF Exhaust Mani, Walbro 255, TBE, Tune, no boost control around 23psi. Its a great autocross setup in the STU class.

Now I am looking at running in SM class and doing some track days.
Originally Posted by dailygrind
sujinX, I don't know the fine details about the STU class but the previous owner competed with it on a national level. Its maxed out in the class but I thought it was legal. Its not tuned for boost which is legal. Its just boost creep. All the mods are after the turbo. sujinX let me know what isn't legal so I can take care of it.
Whose car was it?

Hotside swap isn't legal, fuel pump isn't legal.

23 psi is a lot of creep...
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 06:04 AM
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Butt Dyno,

I cant remember the guys name. But he was in PA.

Man people give all kinds of misinformation at the tracks. They told me you could do fuel pump but not injectors. The car already had it when i bought it.

Yea it will creep up to about 25 in cold weather. This summer it was around 20 at events. Think ihave a small boost leak also. Well i guess next autocross ill go SM
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 06:36 AM
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Butt Dyno,

I cant remember the guys name. But he was in PA.

Man people give all kinds of misinformation at the tracks. They told me you could do fuel pump but not injectors. The car already had it when i bought it.

Yea it will creep up to about 25 in cold weather. This summer it was around 20 at events. Think ihave a small boost leak also. Well i guess next autocross ill go SM
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...o-viii-pa.html
That one?

Here's the rulebook, just check out Chapter 14 - for the most part, that's the only one that matters for STU:
http://www.scca.com/assets/2012_Solo...ry_reduced.pdf
If it doesn't say you can, you cant Feel free to drop me a PM if you ever have questions.

If you are sort of serious about autocross, the car would still be a great track day car in STU trim, you'd just have to back out a couple of things. IMHO, less power for track events is good - it stresses out the entire car less, especially the brakes.
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Butt Dyno
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...o-viii-pa.html
That one?

Here's the rulebook, just check out Chapter 14 - for the most part, that's the only one that matters for STU:
http://www.scca.com/assets/2012_Solo...ry_reduced.pdf
If it doesn't say you can, you cant Feel free to drop me a PM if you ever have questions.

If you are sort of serious about autocross, the car would still be a great track day car in STU trim, you'd just have to back out a couple of things. IMHO, less power for track events is good - it stresses out the entire car less, especially the brakes.
Yep. That's it. I found it on sccaforums.com

Were the rules different back in 2010 or 2011 for STU? This guy seemed to really know a lot about it. I did find out my 255's were to big for STU and got some rpf1 and 245 RS3s right after that.

I am not to serious about it. I like the competition of it (with myself mostly or if a GTR comes ) but I don't want to be in a class where I feel like I am not playing by the rules. SM always looks fun and you can do many things to the car. I am gonna go there.

So mod list now. used parts still...
Injectors: 250
Hardpipes: 300
ETS Intercooler: 400
Aftermarket BOV: 200

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