I'd like to get an idea of who uses what computer upgrade and what your primary use is for it. I get the feeling that the people that are using the Dynoflash are doing 1/4 mile racing, and the people that are using the XEDE/Works are using it more for open track type racing. I'd like to find out if this is actually true!

 

Interestingly - the vast majority of our client's have bone stock evos and never go to any tracks

The primary use for our flash is daily driving - adding 20 or so extra hp while smoothing out the power band and keeping stock like driveability and "feel"

I think a reflash is best suited to a user who wants a install it and forget it modification with zero headaches

While i do some drag race activity - that is more of a hobby of mine and a test bed for product R & D

 

Hey Al back from the dead It was nice you asked bout me Well to stay on topic Xede open track. Most of the flashers I know dont really 1/4 (occasionally) But use it for a kick butt streeter

 

Now Vinshu has available the Xede-Flash , The benefit of both worlds ..

 

On the reflash I may do the bigger injectors and pump, JUST in case I do the stage 2 lolrof

 

Happy you are back in action !

 

Yes Even Bone stock this car with a Flash or Xede is alot of fun.

Eric

 

Absolutely! Well its panning out bout what I thought.
87+% of Vishnu customers are road race only
63+% of Dynioflash customers are impressed by Als 1320 success.

Nothing wrong with this how else would we of thought it would go Shivs a road racer and Al uses the 1/4 to show the potential of his products. When people see the info they say look see Im interested in having a low 12 sec EVO Ill go with Al cause he uses the same thing to go mid 11s. Or look Shiv just got back from Streets of Willow or look the Vishnu EVO stage 1 beat out a porsche 911 or a visnu stage 0 respectably held its own against 80K preped racecars driven my racing legends for 1500 bucks and a full day of different tests. These people opt for the flexability and adaptability of the Vishnu systems

 

I'd love to see a larger sample! Let's give it some time, but I suspect that this is eactly what we are going to see...

 

I think that is silly - I bet 99.99% of the clients only drive on the street

I think the poll should include options for those who just drive their cars on the street which are 99.99 % of my clients

The vast majority of the reflash users are either stock or just have a cat back exhuast and intake

These guys mostly use the car for day to day use and may hit a drag strip one or twice a year or maybe an aut x or two

99.99 % will never do a road race event on a track

BTW - for actual racers who do track days we have a very different tune which we offer which is vastly richer and has less timing to allow massive heat soaked abuse of a real track event

The Exede equiped cars I have seen ALL had lean a/f's which are not well suited to any road racing track days IMHO

 

I agree that most people are street only and prolly a few are misrepresenting themselves in this poll. As far as the Xede cheap shot I ran my car 225 miles of track weekend most on 93 octane pump gas to prove a point. I pulled the plugs multiple times finding a very beatiful shade of brown egg shell- Perfect!! Not a hint of lean or knock prone conditions. So this is just another marketing ploy Al. the Xede was born on the circuit Have you done any dynoflash R&D running multiple 20 minute all out sessions??

 

Oh you edited it!!!

You said that on your road racing maps (that you have) you run the car richer and take away more timing!


I would agree adding a little fuel to keep the cyl temps down would be a good idea but adjusting the ing table to add timing to burn the fuel will keep the ETG lower and keep the power up. By pulling timing and pulling fuel you’re just making the car slower with higher egts. Safe sure but why not then just run the stock settings with MBC to hold more boost to red line.

On pump gas timing is very important to keep up as high as you can (until Knock threshold/ or Octain limits are reach) and having the right amount of fuel to keep the cyl temps low is what makes a reliable, constant and repeatable power on a track car or a daily driver.

It's very easy to tune C16. You will not knock on it. You can't knock on race gas. You can run very high melting piston temps but not detonate on it. Detonation will destory a motor fast then high temps.


Eric

 

Al, I'm tried of your BS. Watch where you tread.

And it's spelled "XEDE" not "EXEDE", btw.

shiv

 

I agree the merits of his dynoflash is fine no need to outright lie about another poduct when there is overwhelming proof and tons of independant AFR testing to prove otherwise Bad form Al I really dont know whythey let you get away with slander all the time

 

No slander here. Unlike Shiv who likes to make personal insults and attack my tuning skills - I am merely commenting on the few dyno sheets I have seen from the Exede equiped cars I have run across. Not that many - only a few - but it was a trend I saw with my own eyes. I have nothing bad to say about Shiv or his talents. I just have a different approach to tuning the car and I want to point it out for those who may be considering any "road racing" activity. No need to get so defensive.

I like to tune much richer about 11.0 / 1 than most other tuners

I think its a matter of not saying they are wrong to run leaner - just a difference of opinion

If Vishnu wants to post up some dyno sheets with a/f's showing that I am wrong then that would change my mind - but everything I have saw from them shows they are much closer to 12.0 / 1 - if i am wrong on that - why not just clarify my statement ? Why make threats?