was wondering if anyone knew if the grddy intercooler was any good and if i did the samco hoses with it woudl that help out my performance in any way??? thanks so much!

 

Well, I sure hope it's agood product. I just ordered the GReddy R-SPL Intercooler Kit from Boost Solutions

FWIW, I saw the unit and it looks excellent. Very high quality finish and Greddy has an excellent reputation. Their Supra ICs are rumored to be the best flowing in the market. Also, that unit comes with all the piping.... Not a bad deal for the price & it's a direct bolt-on unit as well. The only drawback is how long it takes to get it here

 

I dont know about the EVO kit, but the Greddy kit for the RX-7 sucked!

The good: Finish on the piping was polished
End tanks were nice.

The bad: The piping rubbed the hood no matter
how you adjusted it.
The core was a POS extruded tube and fin.

How much was the Greddy kit?

 

Maybe that cons wont be an issue with the evo8. I think the Greddy look really good. Greddy has really good reputation with turbo cars, so I dont doubt their performance nature. I'm going for a greddy IC too. So how much is the IC and the pipes? Greddy IC with Buschur turbo kits is a good combo? Peace...

 

The GReddy R-SPL Intercooler Kit is priced at around $1180 and includes piping. The core appears to be made of tubes with fins, so if that is a pos, the IC is a pos The dimensions are a good bit larger than stock (of course) and the construction looks very good for flow purposes. The Bushchur IC looks pretty good except for the abrupt 90° bend at the inlet..... The Greddy is supposed to bolt on and fit...... There is a guy at Boost solutions who's got one already I'll ask around and see what if any issues he encounters with fit, function, etc.

Peace

 

The abrupt 90° bend on the Buschur probably saves about 15" of tubing length as well as the need to do a 180° bend if the inlet was on the side of the end tank versus the back of it. Performancewise I'm guessing it's probably a breakeven between the two approaches.

For what it's worth the Buschur IC is of a bar and plate type of contruction versus tube and fin and is very well made. It has clean welds with no noticable spatter. It's a very heavy unit, probably weighing nearly twice as much as the stock unit but I can almost guarantee that it won't heat soak as quickly as the stocker will. Fitment was pretty much dead on. I did have to drill out the mounting holes to provide a bit more wiggle room to get the core level with the bumper. The undertray DOES need to be cut. Basically the new IC fills the recessed cavity that exists directly behind the front spoiler lip on the stock undertray. It's not a big deal. I've got a few pics after the surgery that I can post. When you include the upper IC piping you get a complete IC & hardpipe set for $1080.

Sorry for highjacking the thread...

evo8power: When you upgrade your IC you're going to see slightly increased boost lag (fractions of a second) due to the increased core volume that is inherent with most upgraded ICs.

 

You might be right, but in my experience, the 180° tubes will flow infinitely better than any 90° abrupt, shap bend (by the way, the inlet pipe looks more like 120° than 180°). But anyway that might be academic because of other differences between the different IC's. I'm not sure what exactly the bar & plate is vs. the tube and fin. I see tubes and fins in every IC I've ever looked at so I'm prolly not sure of what the nomenclature really means. Here is a picture of the Greddy kit, maybe it can help to clarify matters somewhat.

Red letters are my edited correction, sorry for the confusion

 

A 180 degree bend flows better than any 90 degree bend?! That is almost funny. A 180 degree bend is TWO 90 degree bends isn't it? I guess that would make a 180 degree bend really flow for crap.

The less bends and length you have in your intercooler plumbing the better.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

well i guess it depends on what they mean by 180 degrees... if its 180 in a very smooth fashion.. then yeah its good but if the 90 degrees is just as smooth turning then hey 90 always better. guess how sharp the turn is matters

 

David: I think silverEVO8 may have been referring to the apparent abrupt direction change where the inlet meets the end tank.


silverEVO8: Check this out: http://www.bellintercoolers.com/Pages/tech.asp

 

Not sure what was meant but I gaurantee that the lower i/c plumbing on our kit is optimal.

What you end up having is a mild bend leaving the turbo, this goes straight to the inlet to the FMIC. That inlet is a 4" radius mandrel bent 90 degree bend. This gets rid of the rediculous factory "road trip" routing that the other aftermarket manufacturers continue to follow.

I like our stuff, can you tell?! haha

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

I guess I did not make myself very clear. What I meant was that an abrupt 90° sharp turn is not as good as a gradual curve. Generally the larger the bend radius, the better flow characteristics. At least this holds true for HVAC..... I've had to correct bad ducting before as the airflow through some dead-end and sharp turns in my house all but made the HVAC useless. Of course, YMMV, etc.

 

Theory aside The BR FMIC on my car allows the car to spool = or better than stock and exhibits ZERO heat soak while beating my car within an inch of its life on the roadrace courses in AZ and CA... Just ask all the Z06s how I can pull them in the straight..."oh you the EVO with the BIG FMIC" USDM=Value per HP $ JDM=pretty and you may get the same HP... you'll just pay more for it (and wait 5-7 weeks in most cases) I have pieces from both markets and am happy with everything...But you can't beat Buschur's R&D.. (of 15 years with this motor). Anyone else notice that BR's staging allows every one of their parts to be integrated into the final goal of 400 to 450 WHP being used as a daily driver?

 

Yes, and I'm being sucked right into their marketing strategy!

 

What's the deal with that little loop on the intercooler pipe on the top left?