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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 04:44 AM
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Less is more for me and despite the "you will want more later on" I know I would be happy with about 350whp, heck I'm happy now. I drive a manual 06 scion xb so that should explain some.

Water/meth I would like to avoid. Nothing wrong with it just that there is more to go wrong

In regards to fuel pump I can't stand the whine of the walbro. I know many say they don't have it but I have seen and heard others that do

Any fuel pumps other than walbro to suggest? also i think I would like to go with rc 1000 IF i have to go that route
-Water/meth: you could go for dual, switchable maps 1st for 91 & 2nd is 91+water/meth.
-As mentioned, DW301 pump is even better than the walbro
-RC 1000 are good choice, easy to scale/calibrate
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:29 AM
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I KNOw 350 whp is the border for stock vs modified pump and injectors but i wanted to know which is first to modify.....

Pump is 160$ for the DW and 360$ for injectors plus having to get tuned.

..Big difference in price so i would like to avoid injectors or keep stock around 80% duty cycle
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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You could go for 22-23psi boost with stock injectors.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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For what it's worth i make 333whp/303wtq (mods in sig) using 91oct on a dynojet.. This is at 94% idc. I plan on cranking the boost up also once I get an Omni 4 bar map sensor, for logging purposes.

---Keep in mind, if your using Evoscan for logging, it's been reported that ~125% idc is the true 100% margin for injectors.. I've seen, from credible members, safely using 110% idc for extended periods with no consequences. I plan on doing the same..

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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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^ i 've been reading that aswell about evoscan and 20%

I would like to stay around 80% and avoid injectors at this time if possible

good info...anyone else
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by silverevo05
^ i 've been reading that aswell about evoscan and 20%

I would like to stay around 80% and avoid injectors at this time if possible

good info...anyone else
No way you'll be at 80% IDC in evoscan and make 350whp.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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^ no that's ok....around what (I understand this is a ballpark) whp would I be?

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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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So you want 350whp and 80 % idc in EVOscan on the stock injectors? There's no way you'll be able to achieve that on stock injectors w/ any fuel pump, you'll need to upgrade the injectors.

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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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^ thanks, but thats why I was saying it's ok and around what hp would I be seeing at 80 - 90 % IDC....I have now learned if i would like 350whp I need injectors

Thanks
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 11:21 PM
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Don't think you're going to get to 350 whp with bolt-ons and 91 octane, at least not with a safe tune. Suggest that you start with the pump, and if you run out of injector, then do the injectors.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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Hello silverevo. You seem to have pretty conservative goals, and reliability is one of them I take it. I would get a Denso 'Supra' fuel pump. One can't beat OEM reliability. Though I doubt you'll get to 350whp more than once with the mods you listed
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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Thanks RMD

I actually though about that but I believe it doesnt fit in the stock housing. I believe I will settle on the DW and see how far I go with that and stock injectors then save up and get the rc 1000... They seem to be easier to scale for tuners with all the info out on them
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