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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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dont put redline mt90 in your tranny. Use some BG Synchroshift. Do a search, trust me.

Really? How about gm syncromesh? What the hell am I going to do with all my mt-90?

Is their 75w90 ok in the tranfer/diff?
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by bluevilevo8

I've been driving a manual for 8 years, and have never missed a shift in that entire 8 year period. I am definitely not the cause of my evo's tranny problems. I baby it in and out of every gear, giving the syncros plenty of time to do their stuff, and have also driven a non-syncro'd "crash box" manual. In all this time I have never experienced grinding while crawling in first, and as I said it caught me off guard. It seemed to glide right in as usual (if it doesn't, I NEVER force it), but it didn't take. I think it's time everyone came to the realization this car has issues. Some of which are accentuated by improper use, but many are just inherent. If the car is really so picky that it can't shift into first at a CRAWL with triple syncros, then this is a serious flaw.
Well, you seem like one of the unfortunates that really have a problem. Good luck guy and sorry if I sounded a little pissy, that guy with 45mph into 1st and *****ing about mitsu tranny really made me jumpy.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by boostedwrx
dont put redline mt90 in your tranny. Use some BG Synchroshift. Do a search, trust me.

i would like to know more about that too......
as someone also asked: id Redline work ok with transfer and rear LSD ?

thanks
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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Re: 1st gear grind!!!!!!

Originally posted by bluevilevo8
I was driving my evo to work, approaching a stop sign. I slowed to a crawl, and upon attempting to put the car in first was rewarded with the most blood-curdling grind I've ever heard. (yes I had the clutch fully depressed) "****" I said to myself. I figured as long as it doesn't happen again I'm not going to worry about it. Well lo and behold, about 2 miles down the road, I go for first again at near idle speed and it grinds just as badly. I have owned 4 manual transmission cars and have NEVER ONCE had a gear grind other than in my evo, which now grinds 2nd, 5th, and 1st!!!! I have also NEVER MISSED A SHIFT IN ALL MY YEARS OF OWNING PERFORMANCE CARS. What the hell is going on here? My car now has:

a vibrating clutch pedal
1st, 2nd, and 5th gear grinds
an idle akin to that of a Harley with a misfire (so bad I can't see out the rear view, plus the steering wheel looks like it's going to rattle off )
too many interior rattles to count
a misaligned air box
a rattling TOB

and the best part is... 1016 miles
I trust you are an excellent driver
The good news is this problem is well documented and mitsu will fix this grind for free. My friend had that same problem.

Theres more good news. My car does not rattle and does not grind.

http://www.CarPhoto.net
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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umm why would you double clutch and rev match into 1st gear, your coming to a stop... what is the point? you shouldn't be shfiting into first gear until your at a complete stop. so how would you double clutch into first gear???
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 05:41 AM
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Not every EVO has these problems (except maybe minor interior rattles in cold weather). I'd avoid self diagnosis and home fixes. Take it back and get them to check it. See if you can find somebody else with an EVO so you have something to compare.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 05:50 AM
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Re: 1st gear grind!!!!!!

Originally posted by bluevilevo8
I was driving my evo to work, approaching a stop sign. I slowed to a crawl, and upon attempting to put the car in first was rewarded with the most blood-curdling grind I've ever heard. (yes I had the clutch fully depressed) "****" I said to myself. I figured as long as it doesn't happen again I'm not going to worry about it. Well lo and behold, about 2 miles down the road, I go for first again at near idle speed and it grinds just as badly. I have owned 4 manual transmission cars and have NEVER ONCE had a gear grind other than in my evo, which now grinds 2nd, 5th, and 1st!!!! I have also NEVER MISSED A SHIFT IN ALL MY YEARS OF OWNING PERFORMANCE CARS. What the hell is going on here? My car now has:
If you are grinding while shifting into 1st at a complete stop, chances are that your clutch isn't fully releasing. And considering that you are grinding so many other gears, I am almost positive.

You have to adjust the clutch pedal to give you more throw. Have you done any clutch modifications at all? If not, just take it into the dealer.

Hopefully you haven't caused any permanent damage to the synchros.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by nebolic
umm why would you double clutch and rev match into 1st gear, your coming to a stop... what is the point? you shouldn't be shfiting into first gear until your at a complete stop. so how would you double clutch into first gear???
decelerating in second, crawling along still in second, second to neutral, neutral to first. think rush hour traffic, or rushing to make a right turn.

What's so tough to understand?
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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Take it back and get them to check it. See if you can find somebody else with an EVO so you have something to compare.
I've driven a few other evo's. None idle HALF as bad as mine does, or have ANY clutch pedal vibration, never mind the amount I have in mine which feels like a sharper image foot massager. Dealer says it's all normal, and refuses to look at it.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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Clutch pedal vibration sounds like a warped clutch disc or a warped clutch plate. That would also cause grinding.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by ShapeGSX
Clutch pedal vibration sounds like a warped clutch disc or a warped clutch plate. That would also cause grinding.
That's what I though, but it's been like that since 4 miles on the odo. It transmits the engine vibration right as it starts to engage.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by bluevilevo8

I've been driving a manual for 8 years, and have never missed a shift in that entire 8 year period. I am definitely not the cause of my evo's tranny problems. I baby it in and out of every gear, giving the syncros plenty of time to do their stuff, and have also driven a non-syncro'd "crash box" manual. In all this time I have never experienced grinding while crawling in first, and as I said it caught me off guard. It seemed to glide right in as usual (if it doesn't, I NEVER force it), but it didn't take. I think it's time everyone came to the realization this car has issues. Some of which are accentuated by improper use, but many are just inherent. If the car is really so picky that it can't shift into first at a CRAWL with triple syncros, then this is a serious flaw.
You must be hella of a driver not to missed shift once in 8 years. I've already missed shift my Evo about 5-10 times and only have 10k miles. But have no problem pounding on the gear when out running moded WRX's.

Better get that tranny looked into.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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You must be hella of a driver not to missed shift once in 8 years.
I'd like to think of myself as a "careful" driver. Use proper technique, and you should never miss shift. When shifting quickly, always use soft hands. Never manhandle the shifter.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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If the dealer won't look at it complain to Mitsubishi corporate and get the regional service rep involved.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 01:40 AM
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Just did a test on my Evo. I can shift into 1st at 20mph smoothly. I also noticed my driving habits. I'm always shifting into 1st at 5mph before a stop sign. I'm using MT-90 tranny and 75W-90 for all other gear lube. I must have a pretty good tranny since unlike some, I've missed shift 2nd gear quite a bit. Of course, all the missed shifts were samed by the snycros since that's what I was grinding.
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