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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by Lightsped


That is correct. I bet if everyone of us owned a car dealership (no matter the brand) and customers returned cars with a high probality of a abused clutch, I bet everyone of us would try to weasel out of replacing it. I know I would, I ain't giving free clutches (+ labor) to every highschool kid who thinks he can drive and in reality cooks his clutch. No way!

Yer soo right...I look at these videos around here of stupid people just abusing the hell out of thier cars. I even saw a one of a vender demonstrating a hop up part and he didn't even know he was burning up his clutch. That is the very guy that goes to the dealer sayin, "WTF"? Unless the clutch FLIES APART, there is no reason to replace it when it has been under normal care. When will people get it through their heads, SLIPPING A CLUTCH IS WHAT KILLS IT, AND THERE IS NO REASON TO SLIP A CLUTCH..EVER...EVER, EVER EVER. EVER EVER !

Well, except to get moving, and then only a little.

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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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LoL. I was there yesterday (floor mats) and Ed the service manager at SM mitsubishi was asking me about the clutch issue here on EvoM.

He's pretty reasonable so I'm not surprised you got it fixed under warrantee.

Here's the deal, and he nodded his head when I said this, and he has to be careful what he says as he is a company man.

"Mitsubishi knows they have a bad clutch, especially compared to the STI. If they come out with a TSB on the clutch it will break the bank. If they make 2004 or 2005's with a stronger clutch, they'll have a class action suit right?"

He nodded and smiled.

We talked about the cause, and from the best I could tell by reading through the lines, the clutch has substanial clamping force, but when the organic compound on the clutch heats up, it glazes the flywheel (compound comes off onto the flywheel) and the clutch is toast, gone, finito.

If you launch wrong you launch your clutch.

It would make sense to get a different disc like a carbon fiber which works better with heat. Rob at RPS, are you listening?

Aftermarket clutches are stiffer and you loose time between shifts and are expensive, a premtive disc fix could be cheaper and easier. I think.

Bottom line is, who should pay for fix? If you knew the clutch was weak before you bought it, do you take some of the responsibility when it breaks?

If your wife had bad breath when you dated her, do you have the right to complain about the stink now?

There are GREAT arguments on both sides.

Personally, I'd opt for a dentist over compaining to her mom.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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I think the Mitsu bashing needs to stop...you guys need to realize it isn't Mitsu directly causing the problems with not replacing the clutches, it's the DEALER.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Jaylenospoolboy
We talked about the cause, and from the best I could tell by reading through the lines, the clutch has substanial clamping force, but when the organic compound on the clutch heats up, it glazes the flywheel (compound comes off onto the flywheel) and the clutch is toast, gone, finito.
Sounds plausible, but if that's the case, these cases of early clutch failure could possibly be solved by simply resurfacing the flywheel. Still a hefty labor charge, but a good bit less expensive than a new clutch.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by rbm3
I think the Mitsu bashing needs to stop...you guys need to realize it isn't Mitsu directly causing the problems with not replacing the clutches, it's the DEALER.
actually it is the exact opposite. the dealer norammly has no problems because they still get paid by for everything they do under warrenty. the reason why so many dealers denies clutch claims is due to pressure from and threats that they will NOT be paid if they take the job.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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I think its total BS that they know they have a problem and are just f*cking people because of their lack of honor and pride in their product. They should fix the problem for the up coming years, and replace the old ones if they fail. Why market the evo as a high performance sports car, then when consumers buy it, and drive it the way it is marketed, it breaks! Then mitsu says oh well your not supposed to drive it that way. That is BS!!
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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In warranty claims, the plaintiff sues both the dealer and the manufacturer.
When the plaintiff wins, the manufacturer reimburses the dealer.

thats how it works.

Sean
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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I'm with STFU Tuning-

I think that if you have a legitimate case, then a little pressure, pointing out warranty, and maybe trying another dealership will get you results.

Maybe the people who don't have legitimate cases (i.e. people doing launches, etc.) are making it difficult for other folks to get warranty work done.
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