FP Stainless Housing
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How much would you spend on a nicely fabricated down pipe and O2 housing combo for a factory turbo? Not talking about an Invidia Housing and downpipe. A high quality hand fabricated part is going to be expensive and you get what you pay for. There is a lot of materials and fab time in this piece.
All of the downpipe flanges are meant to accept the factory style doughnut gasket and any flange that works with that setup necks down to 2.5" Not much point in having a nice flowing SS housing with a 3" outlet if you are going to neck it down right after it exits the turbo.
All of the downpipe flanges are meant to accept the factory style doughnut gasket and any flange that works with that setup necks down to 2.5" Not much point in having a nice flowing SS housing with a 3" outlet if you are going to neck it down right after it exits the turbo.
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I wouldn't buy that product. I wait for something mass produced. You do nice work and I'm not going to disrespect you with what I would pay. I hope you understand I am not being facetious by saying mass produced. I'm not talking about the cat back portion either. I'm talking about the invidia has the oversized flange on the o2 housing as an example. I have already spent 800-1000 in o2 downpipe test pipe and fab work .Spending that over again isn't my main concern , but the market is going to flip on these parts used now. Modding my existing downpipe much more logical. Ps the ib app never keeps formatting.
If it were a standard sized vband outlet there's outlets available premade that are cheap too
If it were a standard sized vband outlet there's outlets available premade that are cheap too
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To Each their own, prices always come down as more and more are made.
The Invidia downpipe has a large opening but any O2 housing meant to mate with it including the Invidia cast one using the doughnut gasket is a restriction and necks down to accommodate that style of gasket.
The Invidia downpipe has a large opening but any O2 housing meant to mate with it including the Invidia cast one using the doughnut gasket is a restriction and necks down to accommodate that style of gasket.
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To Each their own, prices always come down as more and more are made. The Invidia downpipe has a large opening but any O2 housing meant to mate with it including the Invidia cast one using the doughnut gasket is a restriction and necks down to accommodate that style of gasket.
Something like this could be used to help integrate existing set ups if it were without the flex and just 18" of straight to give people fabbing options.
http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=BCS
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I would have to agree, with the pricing on things related to keeping a "stock appearing" turbo set up, it's going to drive me out of that market and into another style turbo set up. Everything from FP and Fathouse so far are 100% works of art and are top notch quality... Just can't swing the prices on this stuff.
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When you consider that an HTA 82 kit costs 5000 and this setup with a hood dump will be 3900 with a cast manifold and external wastegate and the cast manifold and stock oil return and the possibility of the HTA86 and maybe even bigger then you are still saving $1000. That is nothing to sneeze at and it will last and perform. You also can buy the manifold later and save 400 and be 1400 less than a T3 kit. It is a badass setup. It isn't for everyone but it is a good setup and a fair price. The BBK turbos end up right around 3K and you still need an O2 housing (450 for JM Fab dump) and you are right at the same cost with a better housing and a better wastegate and a larger assortment of turbos. I am sure if you have a good EVO 9 turbo they can build your White/Green/Red/Black/Zero using a stock turbine housing.
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what's the price difference between slapping in an fp red 3 months ago vs. if I bought a set up today though? From what I can tell it's an extra thousand so far right?
maybe my math is off somewhere? or I missed a hidden cost of the old style housing?
for guys who were looking for a stock framed street turbo this seems like a lot of extra work and cost to get my car to the same point the old setup was more than capable of doing.
I completely understand if they are doing this because it is impossible or expensive to get housings from mitsu but why not just say that?
maybe my math is off somewhere? or I missed a hidden cost of the old style housing?
for guys who were looking for a stock framed street turbo this seems like a lot of extra work and cost to get my car to the same point the old setup was more than capable of doing.
I completely understand if they are doing this because it is impossible or expensive to get housings from mitsu but why not just say that?
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Just slapping it in with a stock 02 housing and down pipe would be 2500. But a good 02 housing was 450 for a JM fab 02 dump. The down pipe would be about 200 for a quailty unit. So you would be about 350 less expensive. However it would VE with an internal wastegate. They suck. So for 350 you get an external wastegate and a much better housing.
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Just slapping it in with a stock 02 housing and down pipe would be 2500. But a good 02 housing was 450 for a JM fab 02 dump. The down pipe would be about 200 for a quailty unit. So you would be about 350 less expensive. However it would VE with an internal wastegate. They suck. So for 350 you get an external wastegate and a much better housing.
For me, $875 to be recirculated and add on around $300 for a wastegate plus shipping is going to be a killer on the wallet, that is if I mod my car ever again
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I dont think that they realize that the CT9A platform is now 11 years old in the US. This would have been great to come out with when the cars were brand new, the people buying the cars had 40K to spend on a car, then modify it. Why do you think AMS doesnt really work on this platform anymore.
These cars are becoming affordable for the younger age group (Late teens and early 20s) that are spending 10-15K on a used one and maybe a little more on a lower mileage EVO. They dont want to 4K (1/4 or 1/3 of the price of the car) into a stock appearing turbo kit.
I did a break down on parts:
2349 fp turbo
265 WG
750 DP
125 recirc
20 o2 bung
15 FP turbo gasket
450 FP manifold and bolt kit (maybe eliminate if you port your stock)
130 fp intake
Total: 4104.00 without shipping. I may have missed other stuff as well.
You should have the option to keep the stock o2 and WG.
These cars are becoming affordable for the younger age group (Late teens and early 20s) that are spending 10-15K on a used one and maybe a little more on a lower mileage EVO. They dont want to 4K (1/4 or 1/3 of the price of the car) into a stock appearing turbo kit.
I did a break down on parts:
2349 fp turbo
265 WG
750 DP
125 recirc
20 o2 bung
15 FP turbo gasket
450 FP manifold and bolt kit (maybe eliminate if you port your stock)
130 fp intake
Total: 4104.00 without shipping. I may have missed other stuff as well.
You should have the option to keep the stock o2 and WG.
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I dont think that they realize that the CT9A platform is now 11 years old in the US. This would have been great to come out with when the cars were brand new, the people buying the cars had 40K to spend on a car, then modify it. Why do you think AMS doesnt really work on this platform anymore.
These cars are becoming affordable for the younger age group (Late teens and early 20s) that are spending 10-15K on a used one and maybe a little more on a lower mileage EVO. They dont want to 4K (1/4 or 1/3 of the price of the car) into a stock appearing turbo kit.
I did a break down on parts:
2349 fp turbo
265 WG
750 DP
125 recirc
20 o2 bung
15 FP turbo gasket
450 FP manifold and bolt kit (maybe eliminate if you port your stock)
130 fp intake
Total: 4104.00 without shipping. I may have missed other stuff as well.
You should have the option to keep the stock o2 and WG.
These cars are becoming affordable for the younger age group (Late teens and early 20s) that are spending 10-15K on a used one and maybe a little more on a lower mileage EVO. They dont want to 4K (1/4 or 1/3 of the price of the car) into a stock appearing turbo kit.
I did a break down on parts:
2349 fp turbo
265 WG
750 DP
125 recirc
20 o2 bung
15 FP turbo gasket
450 FP manifold and bolt kit (maybe eliminate if you port your stock)
130 fp intake
Total: 4104.00 without shipping. I may have missed other stuff as well.
You should have the option to keep the stock o2 and WG.
If I wanted to ditch the parts I have now, I can buy a hot parts kit for $1600 and a 6266 for another $1600 and still be under what this would cost.
I'll agree that for people wanting to upgrade again to only a black or less this may not be the best move right now.
If we had bigger options like the zero or a HTA86 stuffed in this housing I'd have no problem shelling out the money for a new 02 and DP set up. I really think those would sell like hot cakes. It gives people like me another choice where normally I would have to ditch 100 percent of my set up to upgrade. That would be well worth it and I really hope the guys at Fp were thinking one step ahead of all of us with this housing. By the sounds of it I won't be disappointed. Just playing the waiting game right now.