Originally Posted by batty200

FP just blew the game wide open with a billet CHRA. I want an HTA Green in the worst way! Hahaha. I just want to try one out before I buy it to see if it's better than my 6262 overall.

Originally Posted by Fireescape

It's a strange attitude that people have towards certain products. It seems that people are quite happy to just run the line that a manufacturer puts out, blindly regurgitating it at every given opportunity.



This is the story that FP run, but ask them to recommend an actual setup and they go all quite. Wonder why that is - actually no need to wonder because FP themselves actually tell you



And this is a problem in my mind. So I spend $300 dollars, or more, and many hours building a crankcase pressure relieve system. Two -10's out of the valve cover to a sealed catch can and a -12 to my intake tube for suction.



Does this work? No it doesn't, but what can I do. I can't go to FP and say "I built what you said and my turbo is still leaking oil like crazy". I can't say this because FP won't say what I should build. So what can people do? It's pointless complaining to FP, "it's crankcase pressure that causing the leaks" they say, "how do I releive this to stop the leak?" I ask, "not telling" FP reply. So I build what is generally regarded as a bomb proof crankcase pressure releive system, which does absolutely nothing, but there's no comeback to FP because THEY didn't tell you what to build.

So crankcase pressure is the problem michaelrc51, no it is not! At least not all the time! How do I know, see post #59 of this thread. Crankcase pressure can't be the issue because my turbo leaked oil on a dynamic balancer, and on this machine there is no crankcase pressure because there is no crankcase!

So I convert my turbo to a journal bearing. Does it now leak, I hear you ask. No, it does not. Same setup, same crankcase pressure, same engine, same power output. But no leak. What does this tell me? It tells me that there is a fundamental problem with the FP BB turbo that causes it to leak masses of oil when a journal bearing turbo doesn't.

But your turbo must be faulty I hear you say. Is that right! I have my turbo checked by a turbo mechanic, does he find a problem, is there something wrong with my turbo. No, he can't find anything, the turbo looks fine.

There is a suggestion that this is a rare problem. I myself know of at least 12 FP BB turbos that are leaking oil, just in Australia. Is every turbo leaking? No, but many are, too many to dismiss it as a anomaly. We have just has a recall by Mitsubishi here in Australia for a problem with a circuit board in the headlight system that can crack, causing the car's headlights to turbo off. Has every Mitsubishi recalled had this problem? No, just a small quantity, but still Mitsubishi recall 115,000 cars to replace the circuit boards, just in case.

Forced Performance talk about overspeeding the turbo as a possible cause of damage that could cause the leaking oil problem. In post #64 I ask them for some information about this overspeeding. I ask because it's hard to avoid it if you don't know what conditions cause it. I ask about RPM, boost and flow conditions that cause this overspeed situation. Do I get a reply from FP about this, not as yet. I ask about having a local (Australian) turbo mechanic of FP choice, check my turbo for issues, just to cut down on costs to me (which at this point, to have a non leaking turbo have past $1500 on top of the $2500 turbo purchase price). Does Forced Performance contact me via PM to help with this? NO, they do not. I feel that they won't do this because it would cost them a fortune if everyone with a leaking turbo start putting claims in for repairs or replacements.

At this point I'd be happy with something from FP like "you take the leaking cartridge to our Australian distributor and we'll get it checked, if there is something wrong with the manufacturing we'll replace it, at our expense and if there is found that there is no problem with the cartridge, and it still leaks oil on a dynamic balancer, with no crankcase pressure, we'll give your purchase price back". Can't see this happening, but it's nice to dream.