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AFR too lean on FP Black?

Old Jun 24, 2014 | 08:51 PM
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AFR too lean on FP Black?

Ive searched and got mixed answers for what is considered a safe afr at WOT.

On a 3rd gear pull I'm at a steady 10.8 AFR at 25psi.

Is this too lean?

Previous owner said its been tuned at FFtec. Bought in Sacramento, car is in Vancouver, Canada now. I live near the border, so I still fill up with 92 octane in America that the previous owner said it was tuned on.


Mods are:

FP BLACK Ball Bearing Turbocharger
PPI ported exhaust manifold
3" Ported O2 housing
AMS Intercooler
Precision Injected 1000cc injectors
EXEDY Twin Disc Racing Clutch/Flywheel
Forced Performance Air Intake Pipe
Bloxs air intake filter
Beehive Valve springs
Aftermarket inter cooler out pipe
Full 3 inch exhaust from downpipe, test pipe to exhaust
Walbro fuel pump
ARP head studs
Auto Meter boost gauge and Innovate Wideband

Thanks for your help.
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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyC
Ive searched and got mixed answers for what is considered a safe afr at WOT.

On a 3rd gear pull I'm at a steady 10.8 AFR at 25psi.

Is this too lean?

Previous owner said its been tuned at FFtec. Bought in Sacramento, car is in Vancouver, Canada now. I live near the border, so I still fill up with 92 octane in America that the previous owner said it was tuned on.


Mods are:

FP BLACK Ball Bearing Turbocharger
PPI ported exhaust manifold
3" Ported O2 housing
AMS Intercooler
Precision Injected 1000cc injectors
EXEDY Twin Disc Racing Clutch/Flywheel
Forced Performance Air Intake Pipe
Bloxs air intake filter
Beehive Valve springs
Aftermarket inter cooler out pipe
Full 3 inch exhaust from downpipe, test pipe to exhaust
Walbro fuel pump
ARP head studs
Auto Meter boost gauge and Innovate Wideband

Thanks for your help.
10.8 is more on the rich side. But how low does it go once it reaches full boost? And how does it taper at red line? Do you have an AFR log to show vs RPM and boost just for better verification?

Anyhow, 11.2-11.6 Is a better place to be during WOT, tapering to 11.2ish at red line is good.
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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 09:23 PM
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Oh and what are you using to control boost?
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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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I don't have a log, I'm just going by what the gauge says.
from what i can see, it stays at 10.8 above 4k rpm WOT.
It leans out jumping between low 11's and high 12's at half throttle in boost.
Idle is around 14-15

Not sure what im using to control boost, my guess would be its ECU controlled as i dont see a MBC or EBC anywhere
I guess i should get a cable to do some logging.

Thanks for the reply

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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 09:37 PM
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Do yourself a favor and get it retuned, that will probably solve everything.
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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Faisalm
Do yourself a favor and get it retuned, that will probably solve everything.
I'm heading down to English Racing for a tune after I put in cams, just wanted to make sure I'm safe driving with this tune for a couple weeks.
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 01:16 AM
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10.8 is a little rich but nothing dangerous

11.2-11.5 wot

12.-12.5 I like during spool

14.7-15 at idle
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 04:40 AM
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If I were you I would just not get on it until you get your re-tune
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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10.8 is fine and a little on the rich/safe side. you will be fine. a leaner afr will get you more power.
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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mine is 10.8@ WOT, been fine for a year now.
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 11:09 AM
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10.8 is rich. typically on pump gas at wot should be around 11.5. Rich is always better than lean so you should be ok.
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