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Old May 24, 2015 | 04:01 PM
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Warped flywheel or master cylinder issues??

Hey guys, first post here on the forum normally I read over other threads but i simply cannot find anyone who has had this same issue.

First off, the tranny is freshly rebuilt from Shep Trans, with less than 5k on the trannny. The previous clutch in the original trans was put back in which is a Competition Stage 2 and has about 25k miles on it.

The car drove fantastic up until the point at which I let my mother drive it, (I know I know...not very smart but shes super responsible lol) and actually it wasn't her fault, I was the dummy. She leaves it in the driveway, and as anyone would, she leaves it in gear. Now, I have remote start and normally in the winter months ill leave the car in neutral so I can warm it up with remote start. Just like any other time I hit the remote start to drive it and thank god the garage door was open or it would've walked right through the garage door.
Long story short; the car got remote started while in first gear without pressing the clutch in. THIS was the starting issue of my transmission lockout.

Randomly, about 80% of the time, from a dead stop (especially on start up) the car locks out of EVERY gear (5-speed). If you fiddle with it and try to put it in gear from either first to reverse it will actually move the car a couple inches forwards or backwards. I've found that if you pump the clutch 5-ish times or more you can finally get in gear but it is still not buttery smooth into second or third afterwards and it kills me to feel that after having a buttery smooth fresh transmission.

I adjusted the clutch already so that it works perfectly with the slave cylinder. The only thing I can think of now is that because it has to be pumped that it could be the master cylinder or something in my clutch or flywheel has warped due to the stress of the remote start-up.

If anyone has any ideas at all PLEASE chime in!! Anything at all!!
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Old May 24, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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I would call shep. Starting it in gear wont hurt anything. What TOB did you use? I had a comp stage 3 clutch, when I took it out because it was worn out, the throwout bearing (the one comp included) was ready to fall apart. It had 35k miles on it.
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Old May 26, 2015 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
I would call shep. Starting it in gear wont hurt anything. What TOB did you use? I had a comp stage 3 clutch, when I took it out because it was worn out, the throwout bearing (the one comp included) was ready to fall apart. It had 35k miles on it.
The one that comp included......
I think it could be TOB related. I really am still in denial and trying to find other solutions but the possibility is high lol. Thanks.
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Old May 28, 2015 | 04:53 PM
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May just be the tranny. I had mine rebuilt and when it's cold it won't go into any gears. But once I let the car warm up a lil it shifts just fine. Try shifting through the gears with the car off. If it shift just fine then then I would say it's just the tighter tolerances and just needs a lil heat before you try driving off.
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Old May 30, 2015 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jason42003
May just be the tranny. I had mine rebuilt and when it's cold it won't go into any gears. But once I let the car warm up a lil it shifts just fine. Try shifting through the gears with the car off. If it shift just fine then then I would say it's just the tighter tolerances and just needs a lil heat before you try driving off.
It does shift fine with the car off. But even after hours of driving and heating up it still does it very frequently. When it's cold it's almost a different type of lockout like I would expect because it is cold and I can feel that. But this lockout is literally like hitting a brick wall and the car bumps forward a little.
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Old May 30, 2015 | 06:21 AM
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If it shifts fine when the car is off then it is the clutch.
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Old May 30, 2015 | 06:32 AM
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Did she have the parking brake up? When I had remote start for a manual car I had it so it only started (via remote) if the parking brake was up. At least that way if someone leaves it in gear they usually won't put the parking brake up. Doesn't really help with your question, but an idea to prevent that from happening again.
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Old May 30, 2015 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by joeBPUsupra
If it shifts fine when the car is off then it is the clutch.
I don't see why that would be the case at all. You can shift a car this isn't moving/running without even using the clutch. Shifting standing still isn't the same as shifting when the gears are rotating at thousands of RPM
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Old May 30, 2015 | 06:41 AM
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I don't see why that would be the case at all. You can shift a car this isn't moving/running without even using the clutch. Shifting standing still isn't the same as shifting when the gears are rotating at thousands of RPM
If it shifts fine with the car off and then you start the vehicle and it is hard to get into gear then that is a clutch issue.

If it is hard or doesn't get into gear whether the car is on or off then it is probably a trans issue.

Make sure the clutch pedal was adjusted properly.
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Old May 31, 2015 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by joeBPUsupra
If it shifts fine with the car off and then you start the vehicle and it is hard to get into gear then that is a clutch issue.

If it is hard or doesn't get into gear whether the car is on or off then it is probably a trans issue.

Make sure the clutch pedal was adjusted properly.
The clutch is properly adjusted. CeliOnce the hand brake was on and left in gear. Because I have the remote start I always leave it in neutral with the handbrake on. However it can be started with or without the handbrake on.

One major thing I have noticed is that if I adjust the clutch with shorter throw, which I KNOW is not the correct way in this case, it causes my throttle to hang in between gears and when I adjust it back out like it should be then it doesn't hang. This leads me to believe the flywheel isn't fully disengaging making me think it's a warped flywheel issue. Anyone??
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