HI,


I just purchased and fitted a to my VI. just wondering if many people have used this turbo and the results they achieved as far as boost response goes. I am running stock cams to keep the delivery lower in the rev range.


Also it came with a wastegate actualtor however I have been told that the one supplied people have had issues with. any feedback and advise about this would be great

 

I'm confused as to why you are asking post purchase but either way it's done so.......

I've heard mixed reviews using this brand of turbo but for the most part I wasn't impressed with anything but the price.

It's ability to spool is far less desirable than the slightly more pricey ones.

I had to buy a new actuator

And it failed after 1/4 season at the track

Sorry to break it to you

But you get what you pay for

 

to answer your question about post purchase. the car is track only and I am in the process of cutting the rear guards, cutting the spare wheel well and installing a surge, new lines, injectors ect. so although it is fitted if I get a heap of negative feedback from people I will pull it off and replace it before it goes to the dyno and tuned. however I really want to hear or see results from people who have actually used them not hearsay about them because it is not "FP or Borg"

yes you do get what you pay for, however there are times when buy top shelf gets nothing other than a name and a sticker.

 

Understood
I gave you my actual experience with the turbo

I had the same opinion as you did and bought the turbo...and it failed

Which means I actually used it

Feel free to disregard my actual experience and enjoy your time in the pit area during your track season

 

I am all ears or should I say eyes. I believe in listening to people who have used the products and only those. not interested in internet warriors.

how long ago was this when you had issues with this particular turbo and other than the actuator failure and the reduced spooling ability, was there other points of failure

 

Well for starters.....

This was one year ago on my gen2 DSM w an VIII swap drag car

I only noticed the things I mentioned before because of how l
Small the window was for it actually working.

During tuning we noticed the WG problem and swapped out a turbosmart.
Also during tuning we noticed the spool was not as comparable as other turbo systems we used. But I was invested and had no more money after swapping motors and building a drag car......so I used it.

Like I said I'm not an Internet warrior I'm trying to help

 

So I searched like crazy for key words like kinugawa failure and kamak failure and found nothing substantial. So I decided to give'em a shot and document as I go. I am on my phone so I will post the link later where I am covering the kinugawa 20gtx-td05-sts in my Evo x. I am curious if the failure you experienced was the compressor, bearing, or turbine. What psi were you running at? Which 20g form factor compressor? I just installed the turbo and am happy so far. Longevity is what i am worried about. Your not the only one to approach saying they had a massive failure yet didn't post that info to warn others. If mine blows it will be fully documented in my thread.

 

There are many other threads on various forums but here's one https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...thread-17.html

And I wasn't forum crazy prior to my Evo purchase so I really didn't feel the need to open an account on a DSM forum to complain

I determined the failure from my turbo....which is the exact same model as yours.
The oil seals failed, which in turn lead to the turbo failing mid pass

Psi was @ 27psi
E85, and I had run previous turbos mich harder so I figured for a new turbo id be conservative our first race season with that turbo.

 

thanks for every ones comments so far. greatly appreciated. is someone able to give me the turbosmart part number they used for the wastegaste actuator (SR Concepts?)?

SR Concept, you say that the spool wasn't as good as your other turbo set up, may I ask what they set up was and what was different in the spool?

 

I will go through inventory for WG PN

Also

Setup prior

FP GREEN BB

Setup after fail

PTE 6466

 

ok thanks very much PN would be great. I am in the same situation kind of in the fact I have committed and have got so many other things to fix/ finish (converting road car to Track only, cage shocks diffs clutches everyone knows the things) that I will probably run it till it dies whenever that is then investigate alternatives

 

What was the compressor specs? 20g is just a form factor (these days). I am just curious even though that isn't what gave out first. Also did you have surge issues? If you were experiencing surge, which is common w/ certain 20g blade designs w/TD05 turbines; that is a cocktail for failure.

And my link as promised:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ett-kamak.html

 

i broke the same turbo last month ...

 

By "broke" what do you mean? how old was the turbo? what actually broke? what were you doing with it? how much boost were you running through it?

 

Jaraxle- I had no compressor surge prior to the racing event where it failed,

i had a billet 11 blade with the anti surge housing

Compressor Wheel 52.5 mm / 68 mm (20G wheel)
Turbine Wheel 61 mm / 54.1mm (TD06SL2 wheel)

also to the OP just got back from Vacation so i will grab the PN when i head in tomorrow