Bang for $ - cams vs turbo upgrade on evo9
The cbrd website doesn't have much info, I'll shot him a message
I emailed fp they would still make mine Evo 9 turbo into a green it's just 4 weeks downtime
I emailed fp they would still make mine Evo 9 turbo into a green it's just 4 weeks downtime
Last edited by maxspeed96ct; Aug 23, 2016 at 02:08 PM.
CBRD no longer sells the BBK. Now its direct from Blouch as the 1.0/2.0/3.0 http://www.bptstore.com/Mitsubishi-Turbos_c_10.html
It is a stock frame bolt on turbo. I believe it uses stock lines. Maybe contact MAP to verify, and see if they can give you special evom pricing https://www.maperformance.com/produc...vo9-dom-2-0xtr
Plenty of people ran CBRD BBKB's on stock blocks.
BBK Full = Blouch 1.0
BBKB = Blouch 2.0
Search BBK dyno charts and build threads for to get an idea of the spool/power differences.
BBK Full = Blouch 1.0
BBKB = Blouch 2.0
Search BBK dyno charts and build threads for to get an idea of the spool/power differences.
Closest e85 station is just over 1 hr from me. It's not feasible to run it
If I remember right the BBK/1.0 spools ~200-400rpm faster, but the BBKB/2.0 makes ~20-40 more whp up top. The amount up top is very dependant on your other supporting mods.
Personally, I like the 1.0XTR. But for drag racing (where spool is almost irrelevant) the 2.0 will definitely be faster.
Generally its better to buy more (i.e., bigger) turbo than you think you need. That way you don't get the urge to upgrade. Plus you can run lower boost and get lower back pressure.
Personally, I like the 1.0XTR. But for drag racing (where spool is almost irrelevant) the 2.0 will definitely be faster.
Generally its better to buy more (i.e., bigger) turbo than you think you need. That way you don't get the urge to upgrade. Plus you can run lower boost and get lower back pressure.
Last edited by nemsin; Aug 23, 2016 at 03:43 PM.
So what you guys are saying is cams aren't worth the $ and just spend the money on a better turbo ?
The way I see it both need the same supporting mods, cams and springs are about $1000 and a fp green is upgrade about the same, maybe a little more for a red.
E85 is not a option, car will be on 93
The way I see it both need the same supporting mods, cams and springs are about $1000 and a fp green is upgrade about the same, maybe a little more for a red.
E85 is not a option, car will be on 93
The Red should make 430-450 safely on 93oct . I wasn't able to find any clean dynojet graphs on the Blouch/bbk stuff so I went with what was proven to make power.
If you need more power on pump then go with a larger turbo or turbo kit. A meth kit just to cool the charge is also a good idea.
Last edited by Abacus; Aug 23, 2016 at 05:36 PM.
I'll vouch for an MHI red. My 8 (no mivec) has 20psi at 4K, and 32 at 4500 in 3rd. It's a great turbo. With mivec it'll spool about 200-300 rpms faster. Idk how the cams effect spool since I did cams before the turbo. If I was to do it again, I would do the turbo first. On E85, the cams only picked up about 15whp with the 9 turbo. The little guy is just out of breath.
I wish Blouch gave some more info on their website. Would a dominator 1 require a oil filter housing feed line like the fp red ?
And FP still does the upgrades but I'm not sure if I can do 4 -5 weeks down time. Then their other fp red requires a custom down pipe, tail wg and the works.
Any other recombination comparable to a fp red ?
And FP still does the upgrades but I'm not sure if I can do 4 -5 weeks down time. Then their other fp red requires a custom down pipe, tail wg and the works.
Any other recombination comparable to a fp red ?
http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=512270
http://www.rosssport.com/Brands/OWEN...-Turbo-Evo-4-9
With no VAT and current exchange rates its actually a bargain.
£1,454.16 = $1,918.40 JB
£1,870.83 = $2,468.09 BB
http://www.rosssport.com/Brands/OWEN...-Turbo-Evo-4-9
With no VAT and current exchange rates its actually a bargain.
£1,454.16 = $1,918.40 JB
£1,870.83 = $2,468.09 BB
Last edited by nemsin; Aug 25, 2016 at 06:52 AM.
I wish Blouch gave some more info on their website. Would a dominator 1 require a oil filter housing feed line like the fp red ?
And FP still does the upgrades but I'm not sure if I can do 4 -5 weeks down time. Then their other fp red requires a custom down pipe, tail wg and the works.
Any other recombination comparable to a fp red ?
And FP still does the upgrades but I'm not sure if I can do 4 -5 weeks down time. Then their other fp red requires a custom down pipe, tail wg and the works.
Any other recombination comparable to a fp red ?
This is the crack you're looking for. It's to take the Vband off and pop the housing off to check for.
https://www.forcedperformance.net/me...ed_divider.jpg









